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  • Sun, Jun 29 2008 8:32 PM

    • BarkinMadd
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    Mixing different framerates within the same project?

    I've found that if I create a QT reference export that I can import it into a project setup for a different framerate (i.e., import the QT reference and MC 3.0 take care of transcoding it into the project's framerate - guessing).

    For example, if I mix-down and then export an HDV 1080i59.94 sequence as a QT reference, I can then import it into a 1080p24 (23.976) project (at which time, MC 3.0 appears to transcode it).

    If I were to try to import a 1080i59.94 in MXF format to the 1080i24 project, MC would complain.

    Sorry to be so long-winded, but is there an easier way to mix media of differing framerates in MC?

    Thanks, 

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  • Mon, Jun 30 2008 2:47 AM In reply to

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    Re: Mixing different framerates within the same project?

    I was about to post a similar question.  I have a project shot on P2 cards where most of the footage was recorded at 720P 24P Native, but some was recorded at 720P 24P(59.94).  How can I edit both in the same sequence easily?

    Thanks.

     

  • Mon, Jun 30 2008 3:59 AM In reply to

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    Re: Mixing different framerates within the same project?

    cham242:

    I was about to post a similar question.  I have a project shot on P2 cards where most of the footage was recorded at 720P 24P Native, but some was recorded at 720P 24P(59.94).  How can I edit both in the same sequence easily?

    Thanks.

     

     If your project mainly is 24p, just create a 24p project. You'll be able to import and edit both formats on the same timeline in MC3.0.

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  • Mon, Jun 30 2008 3:43 PM In reply to

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    Re: Mixing different framerates within the same project?

    MC3.0 won't let me load the 2 different framerate clips into the same project.  It says, "Clip frame rate (59940) does not match project frame rate (23976).

     

  • Mon, Jun 30 2008 4:03 PM In reply to

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    Re: Mixing different framerates within the same project?

     What happens when you open a 60i project. Is it not going to accept both framerates? 

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  • Mon, Jun 30 2008 6:10 PM In reply to

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    Re: Mixing different framerates within the same project?

    No.  Neither frame rate will play in a 60i project.  Again, the clips are 720P 24N (which is 23.97) and 720P 24 (which is 59.94)

     

  • Mon, Jun 30 2008 6:24 PM In reply to

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    Re: Mixing different framerates within the same project?

    I contacted some of the applications editors at Avid to see what they say about this. I'll report back when I get an answer.

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  • Mon, Jun 30 2008 7:10 PM In reply to

    • GeorgeD
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    Re: Mixing different framerates within the same project?

     When you import a Quicktime file you can tell it to ignore the original framerate: Open Console and type "IngnoreQTrate true"

    Not sure if it helps in your case but something to try.

  • Tue, Jul 1 2008 12:25 PM In reply to

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    Re: Mixing different framerates within the same project?

    With P2, 720/24p is a 720/59.94p clip with frame segmentation to give the clip the look of 24p. This is a great chart on what's what: <http://www.24p.com/HVX200_1.htm>

    To change the frame rate of a P2 card I suggest using DVFilm's MXFX. This is a tutorial I did on how to use it:

    <http://community.avid.com/blogs/training/archive/2008/05/30/p2-frame-rate-conversion-for-the-media-composer.aspx>

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