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  • Tue, Jun 16 2015 9:44 AM

    • S.Clements
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    Audio Handover to Protools

    I have a question about typical assistant editor duties when exporting AAFs for Protools guys.  Let's say the editor chose to use just an editor's mix, or 1 or 2 dialogue tracks, no matter how many were recorded.  When the audio is handed over to the sound designer, is it the assistant editor's job to put all the missing tracks back onto the timeline, so that the ProTools guy will have access to them?  Or is it the ProTools' guy's job to add new sound as he needs it?  If it's the PoTools guy's job, how does he go about putting the missing sound back in?

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  • Tue, Jun 16 2015 10:34 AM In reply to

    Re: Audio Handover to Protools

    Easier to do in Pro Tools, and links back to the original BWAV files. They need to mark the tracks from the AAF as "Field Recorder Guide Tracks", add all BWAVs to the region list/clip list, then they can expand all events, thereby opening up all tracks recorded for that event.

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  • Tue, Jun 16 2015 11:09 AM In reply to

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    Re: Audio Handover to Protools

    Job ter Burg:

    They need to mark the tracks from the AAF as "Field Recorder Guide Tracks", add all BWAVs to the region list/clip list, then they can expand all events, thereby opening up all tracks recorded for that event.

     

    Thanks, Job.  So, this is ALL done in ProTools? (none of the steps in Avid?) and therefore not done by the assistant picture editor?  None of the steps you listed, that I've put in quotes, sound familiar to me - they sound like ProTools things which I have no knowledge of.

     

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  • Tue, Jun 16 2015 3:01 PM In reply to

    Re: Audio Handover to Protools

    This would all be done in PT. No extra tasks in MC.

    I like to not consolidate the media, but rather copy all Avid audio media. Add an AAF and a copy of all original BWAV production sound files.

    The open the AAF, which will link to the Avid media. They add the BWAVs to PT's region list.

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  • Wed, Jun 17 2015 7:04 AM In reply to

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    Re: Audio Handover to Protools

    Thanks, Job.  Good to know!

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  • Wed, Jun 17 2015 8:08 AM In reply to

    Re: Audio Handover to Protools

    P.S.: I just found out that there's a company in France that handles MC to PT conforms. They make sure the dialogue editor can start cutting dialogue. Haven't worked with them yet, but that will happen in the next few months.

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  • Wed, Jun 17 2015 10:48 PM In reply to

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    Re: Audio Handover to Protools

    Agree with Job, should be done in Pro Tools. Though one thing we do get asked for a lot is a sync AAF, which has the matching audio for every video clip in a cut. Since an edit will often not have the matching audio below a video clip for whatever reason, I made an Applescript to automate the process or cutting all the original audio tracks under each video clip.

    Copy this into the Apple Script Editor and save as an application. When you launch the app, please read the pop up window very carefully before using it, it requires a number of shortcut keys to be set in the MC keyboard preference before using and always work on a duplicate sequence in a sperate work bin.

    **** Copy everything from below this line to the bottom ****

     

    -- AutoTrackLay v12
    -- Mark Burton 2015
    -- Lays down all original source audio tracks to match the picture cuts.

    tell application "System Events"
    get properties
    if UI elements enabled then
    tell current application
    activate
    end tell
    display dialog "             BEFORE RUNNING THE SCRIPT
    ________________________________________________
           SET KEYBOARD SHORTCUTS IN AVID

    These are usually Defaults:

    Q Go to IN
    W Go to OUT
    B Overwrite
    T Mark Clip
    G Clear Both Marks
    CMD A Select All Tracks
    CMD 0 Timeline

    Set these as custom Keyboard settings:

    SHIFT C Match Frame
    SHIFT Z Cycle Picture/Sound
    SHIFT M Step forward 1 Frame
    SHIFT V V1
    ________________________________________________
                PREPARE SEQUENCE IN THE BIN

    - Duplicate your sequence.
    - Commit Multicam Edits if applicable.
    ________________________________________________
            PREPARE SEQUENCE IN THE TIMELINE

    - Drop down all dailies clips to V1.
      (i.e. remove VFX, video mixdowns etc if possible)
    - Delete all Audio & Video tracks except V1.
    - Remove all Match Frame Edits.
    - Close the Timecode Window.
    - Turn off CAPS LOCK.
    - Put Timeline playhead to start possition.
    ________________________________________________
                   *****VERY IMPORTANT*****

    The LAST clip in the sequence MUST NOT BE MOS.
    It MUST have audio sync to Match Frame to due to the
    way the script detects the end of the sequence.
    Cut a TAIL LEADER with SYNC SOUND on the end.

    There is a short delay before it starts.
    Do not touch anything until it completes." with title "AutoTrackLay v12" buttons {"Cancel", "Go"} default button 2


    tell application "AvidMediaComposer"
    activate
    delay 2
    end tell
    tell application "System Events"
    tell process "AvidMediaComposer"
    keystroke "0" using command down --Make Timeline active (cmd 0)
    delay 0.1
    keystroke "g" --Clear Both Marks
    keystroke "a" using command down --Select All Tracks (cmd a)
    keystroke "v" using shift down --Deselect V1 (shift v)
    delay 0.1
    repeat
    delay 0.1
    --MARK THE CLIP
    keystroke "t" using option down --Mark Clip (option t)
    --MARK THE CLIP
    --CHECK FOR END OF SEQUENCE, STOP IF REACHED
    keystroke "q" --Go to IN (q)
    keystroke "c" using shift down --Match Frame (shift c)
    tell window 1
    get name
    set window_name1 to result
    end tell
    if window_name1 does not contain "Timeline" then
    tell current application
    activate
    end tell
    display dialog "Sequence Complete!" buttons {"OK"}
    exit repeat
    else if window_name1 contains "Timeline" then
    end if
    --CHECK FOR END OF SEQUENCE, STOP IF REACHED
    --MATCH FRAME BACK TO THE AUDIO SOURCE TRACKS
    keystroke "z" using shift down --Cycle Picture/Sound (shift z)
    keystroke "z" using shift down --Cycle Picture/Sound (shift z)
    keystroke "0" using command down --Make Timeline active (cmd 0)
    keystroke "c" using shift down --Match Frame (shift c)
    --MATCH FRAME BACK TO THE AUDIO SOURCE TRACKS
    --CHECK FOR ERROR MESSAGE, STOP IF NEEDED
    tell window 1
    get name
    set window_name2 to result
    end tell
    if window_name2 contains "Avid Media Composer" then
    tell current application
    activate
    end tell
    beep
    display dialog "Avid is unable to Match Frame this clip - probably a Motion FX.
    Please replace with the original clip. Then place the playhead over the fixed shot (or skip on to the next shot) and run the script again to continue from that point on." with icon 0 buttons {"STOP AND FIX"}
    exit repeat
    else if window_name2 does not contain "Avid Media Composer" then
    end if
    --CHECK FOR ERROR MESSAGE, STOP IF NEEDED
    --CHECK FOR GAP AND MOVE TO NEXT SHOT
    tell window 1
    get name
    set window_name3 to result
    end tell
    if window_name3 contains "Timeline" then
    keystroke "w" --Go to Out (w)
    keystroke "m" using shift down --Step forward 1 frame
    delay 0.1
    keystroke "v" using shift down --Deselect Video (shift v)
    else if window_name3 does not contain "Timeline" then
    --CHECK FOR GAP AND MOVE TO NEXT SHOT
    --COMPLETE THE MATCH FRAME AND CUT AUDIO IN
    keystroke "v" using shift down --Select V1 (shift v)
    keystroke "c" using shift down --Match Frame (shift c)
    keystroke "0" using command down --Make Timeline active (command 0)
    keystroke "v" using shift down --Deselect V1 (shift v)
    keystroke "b" --Overwrite Audio into sequence (b)
    --COMPLETE THE MATCH FRAME AND CUT AUDIO IN
    end if
    end repeat
    end tell
    end tell
    else
    set os_version to do shell script "sw_vers -productVersion"
    tell application "System Preferences"
    activate
    if os_version does not contain {"10.8", "10.7", "10.6"} then
    set current pane to pane "com.apple.preference.security"
    reveal anchor "Privacy_Accessibility" of pane "com.apple.preference.security"
    display dialog "INCORRECT SYSTEM SETTING DETECTED
    - Under \"Allow the apps below to control your computer\" add the AutoTrackLay app and make sure its ticked.
    - Then run the script again." with icon 0 buttons {"Ok"} default button 1
    else
    set current pane to pane "com.apple.preference.universalaccess"
    display dialog "INCORRECT SYSTEM SETTING DETECTED
    - Check \"Enable access for assistive devices\" at the bottom of this preference page.
    - Then run the script again." with icon 0 buttons {"Ok"} default button 1
    end if
    end tell
    end if
    end tell

  • Thu, Jun 18 2015 3:42 AM In reply to

    • S.Clements
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    Re: Audio Handover to Protools

    Wow!  That's pretty sophisticated, Mark.  I haven't gotten into Applescript at all yet.  I kind of figured people would ask for an AAF of this type.  On another forum, someone suggested making two AAFs for a sound designer - one with only the audio selected by the editor and another with all the sync audio for every clip intact - exactly what this script appears to be for.  I find it hard to imagine a script that goes through a timeline and does it all automatically, but I'll look into it.

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  • Thu, Jun 18 2015 8:44 AM In reply to

    • mark.burton
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    Re: Audio Handover to Protools

    Bear in mind Media Composer is not an Applescriptable application, this script uses scripted keystrokes and some error detection by reading the names of windows. We've used it on a load of projects and never had any issues. To lay down all the audio for a reel can take 5-10 minutes, but can mostly be left to do its thing. Speed fx can trip it up since MC can sometimes throw an error for those when its attempts and match frame them. The script will stop and let you fix the hole with the original picture if you want though, or just move the playhead past it and carry on.

  • Thu, Jun 18 2015 9:04 AM In reply to

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    Re: Audio Handover to Protools

    The script code had not copied well into this forum, had a load of added spaces. Have tidied it up now, so please re-copy the text.

  • Thu, Jun 18 2015 9:29 AM In reply to

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    Re: Audio Handover to Protools

    Thanks, Mark!

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