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  • Tue, Dec 21 2010 4:16 PM

    Help with Avid and Adobe workflows

    Hi, I am trying to export an Avid project so that I can use it in Adobe Premiere Pro in order to utilize Adobe After Affects and similiar programs with my Avid project; however, when I get ready to export. The message comes up export has failed. The rendering location of the audio is locked. What can I do to export so that I can utilize the Adobe products please help?

    Also, I don't know if it has something to do with me having an external hard-drive hooked up for the video files. I think before I had the hard-drive I uploaded the files unto the C drive, Now I work mainly on my F drive to save space, and when I open my Avid program I get a message saying files on C: in Mxf 1 will be unavailable. Perhaps this has something to do with it. Please someone help me to remedy this problem.

  • Tue, Dec 21 2010 4:23 PM In reply to

    • Zac Hogle
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    Re: Help with Avid and Adobe workflows

    Hi Mswilliams,

    We'll need a little more info to help out. How exactly are you exporting the sequence? Are you exporting to an OMF, and are you exporting directly to the hard drive? Also, what version of MC are you running? Thanks, hopefully we can help out!

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  • Tue, Dec 21 2010 10:47 PM In reply to

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    Re: Help with Avid and Adobe workflows

    Mswilliams:
    I am trying to export an Avid project so that I can use it in Adobe Premiere Pro in order to utilize Adobe After Affects and similiar programs with my Avid project
    If all that you're trying to do is use AE with Avid you don't need to export it to Premiere first.  You should be able to open your export directly in AE.
    Mswilliams:
    The rendering location of the audio is locked ... when I open my Avid program I get a message saying files on C: in Mxf 1 will be unavailable.
    This sounds more like a Windows permissions problem than a fault with Avid export.  You might like to check the Knowledge Base for information on how to set up permissions.

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  • Wed, Dec 22 2010 2:17 AM In reply to

    Re: Help with Avid and Adobe workflows

    Hi, no I am exporting as an aaf file. I go to the file menu export and choose link audio and video. I have tried saving to the hard-drive and to the external hard-drive. I am using MC5.

  • Wed, Dec 22 2010 2:25 AM In reply to

    Re: Help with Avid and Adobe workflows

    Thank you. I will check into that. I'll let you know if anything changes. I'm sure that I can open a video in AE if I export it as a movie quicktime or something, but I don't have all of my cuts and edits done yet. I am working on some titles in AE and would like to just insert those into my timeline project which I am still working on in Avid that's why I am trying to export my project as an AAF to Premiere Pro because I should be able to insert my title videos etc. directly from AE and than finish all of my cuts in Avid afterwards. When you export as an aaf file it does not move your files and things to my understanding it just links it so that I would be able to edit using both programs Premiere Pro and Avid.

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    Re: Help with Avid and Adobe workflows

    Yes - and Adobe claims that you can do exactly what you are trying to do but I can't seem to get it working with CS5 and MC5 - it's as if Adobe hasn't updated CS5 to work with some issue in MC5. This sort of 'stuff' drives me crazy. Hope you or someone else on this board has figured out a way to successfully import AAF into Premiere CS5 and then export back out to MC5.

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  • Thu, Dec 23 2010 3:14 AM In reply to

    Re: Help with Avid and Adobe workflows

    Ok, here's what I figured out. I have been able to export individual videos from Avid as an aaf file into ACS5 and open them, but not a sequence that I've already been working on. It appears that I should just import my video into Adobe CS 5 and do all of my stuff then export it back to Avid to finish any additional edits. At least this works although not being able to export a sequence is sort of a bomber. I can make this work. If anyone is able to export a sequence that they have already been working on in Avid to Adobe then let me know.

  • Thu, Dec 23 2010 7:21 AM In reply to

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    Re: Help with Avid and Adobe workflows

    The simpliest way (and seems to be the most stable way as well) for me using HD source video... is to use Cineform as your codec of choice between the two applications.

    You can do what ever you want to you video source in an AVID... export it as a Cineform File format (...must be a Cinefrom HD Quicktime Movie format...)...

    Drag and Drop the Cineform file created from the AVID sequence into After Effects...  do your AE magic...

    Render out of AE (you must save as a different file name) as a Quicktime Format using a Cineform HD as the Format Options. (also make sure your composition length of video settings in the AE rendering file matches the video length to the AVID sequence length you want it to be in AVID.

    Link the rendered AE file to Avid.   Done.

    But... it seems there are a few plug-ins that don't play well with AE and an MC combo... and, for some reason AE or AVID doesn't seem to link the correct video length when you use export only portions of a AVID sequence.... for example... if you export a 1 sec clip to AE (as a Cineform mov file) when you render it in AE (also as a CF mov file with new file name)... then, you AMA link the file in MC... the linked file may be 5 secs. long with fixed frames of the last frame repeated - not 1 sec. long.... it is obvious where the cut needs to be made when you drop it into the original Avid sequence or preview the newly imported AE manipulated clip... so, basically it is usually an easy fix if this happens.... but, it very seldom occurs if your fps rates are consistent between AVID and AE.

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  • Thu, Dec 23 2010 2:03 PM In reply to

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    Re: Help with Avid and Adobe workflows

    The workflow you describe should apply just as well to DNxHD. Wonder what the issue it there? Mind you, another workflow with AE and MC is to do a QT Ref export to AE and then render back out of AE using the DNxHD codec which then can be imported or linked back to MC. The only problem with this workflow is that you must exclude the audio from the QT Ref file, otherwise AE  will crash (or at least that's been my experience).

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  • Thu, Dec 23 2010 2:44 PM In reply to

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    Re: Help with Avid and Adobe workflows

    FWIW - I have never gotten an Avid sequence to be successfully imported into Adobe products using their AAF import. I have, however, done this a number of times with Automatic Duck. AD Pro Import AE will make a QT reference file of each Avid MXF media file, which links After Effects to the media, as well as the sequence edit points.

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  • Thu, Dec 23 2010 2:53 PM In reply to

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    Re: Help with Avid and Adobe workflows

    Thanks for the info.

    I tried exporting a file to aaf and it won't import to Premiere either.

    Quick question for those of you trying this? Should we be able to import an MXF file from the Avid MediaFiles folder into Premiere or AE?

    I'm asking because essentially what I see happening with the AAF import is that it sort of works but then Premiere claims the media is offline. Then if I link it to the MXF file in Avid MediaFiles Premiere complains that the MXF file is in an unsupported compression type.

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  • Thu, Dec 23 2010 7:04 PM In reply to

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    Re: Help with Avid and Adobe workflows

    BarkinMadd

    What versions of Avid and AE are you describing?

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  • Thu, Dec 23 2010 7:37 PM In reply to

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    Re: Help with Avid and Adobe workflows

    CS5 and MC5 (most recent AE and MC 5.0.3.5) - why do you ask?

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  • Thu, Dec 23 2010 10:44 PM In reply to

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    Re: Help with Avid and Adobe workflows

    I am still using AE4 with MC5 and was wondering if the AE5 with MC5 would have the problems you were having...  but... seeing how you are on both most current versions... I see the problem is common between both AE4 and AE5 versions.

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  • Thu, Dec 23 2010 11:54 PM In reply to

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    Re: Help with Avid and Adobe workflows

    Interesting. Maybe the issue is with MC5... darn!

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