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  • Thu, Sep 10 2009 7:34 PM

    • adamsonn
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    What's in a bin?

    Hello

    I am currently busy with a project - 9 minutes long, 9 video tracks, 3 audio tracks - of the 9 minutes all the clips are rendered as there is an effect applied throughout.

    I have also made use of Heroglyph for titling quite extensively.

    My main concern is that my sequences in the bin are enormous - current working sequence is 100Mb but with multiple sequence backups the back up bin is over 600Mb  - this means that if I have a backup bin for old sequences and a working bin, I cannot open them both at the same time (I have 3 Gb mem) because the application runs out of memory.

    Surely bins just contain a reference to the MXF files on the data drives rather than all the rendered files and other such stuff?

    If I did a larger project I am thinking I would soon run out of space and memory.

    Are bins meant to get big?

     

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  • Thu, Sep 10 2009 7:40 PM In reply to

    Re: What's in a bin?

    Yes they are getting bigger. They also store titles or better link to precomputes so you can remake them easily.

    My film's Project was 40mb and after I applied 10 titles went to 50 or so.

    If you want to run MC at full throttle it is better to have a 64bit system with 8G of Ram.

    I can see huge difference between my laptop and my main at studio.

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  • Fri, Sep 11 2009 8:25 PM In reply to

    • adamsonn
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    Re: What's in a bin?

    Hello again

    I am sorry to bang on about this bin thing, but I am getting a bit confused here (maybe unnecessarily so) and the manual does not have much detail on this:

    Using MDV I went and cleaned out all the listed pre-compute (render files) in a number of projects that I do not want to completley delete just yet. My original expectation was that if I were to open those projects after doing this the timelines for each of the sequences would need to be re-rendered.

    But, opening those projects the timelines are all okay - all renders seem to be intact - and if I display the pre-computes in the bin (hamburger on bin and "set bin display". choose pre-computes) a whole bunch of precomputes are displayed. The drive that they are resident on is the media drive (so I dont think that they are stored in the AVB bin files on the Avid project drive).

    But - If I open media tool inside Avid  and set the option to display pre-computes I get none listed.

    I am aware that this is all a bit academic and is not impacting my editing capabilities, but the logic here does not seem to reconcile with my thinking.

    Why are there precomputes listed in a bin view with the drive shown as being the media drive (the right click "locate file" option opens the media drive directory well) but they are not shown in MDV/Media tool?

    What is a bin meant to hold - does a bin (avb file )  actually contain a copy of the current precomputed /render files and that file is mirrored on the media drive - if not then I am at a loss to explain why bins with sequences can get so big? Although this does not make sense to me - so then does a bin just keep some render files and if so which ones.

    Any answers, links to documents would be eagerly accepted because understanding this gives me more peace of mind when trying to free up some space on the editing workstation.

    Thanks

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