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  • Fri, Jun 5 2009 12:24 AM

    • ianeditz
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    Blacklisted Effects

    Hi Guys, just got back from the joint compositing commitee meeting in Stockport and thought I would give you a heads up of the results.

     

    This years prohibited effects are as follows

    Dips to black

    Timewarping of crane shots accompanied by "whooshing"

    Crash zooms as a transition

    Lens flares as a transition

    and inappropriate blur dissolves

    Also we have decided that this years flashback tone is Magenta.

     

    Obviously for non union editors and compositors this is just for guidance but the prohibition is binding for unionised members and the neccesary disciplinary action will be taken for those found violating this code of conduct.

     

    Regards

     

    Ian

  • Fri, Jun 5 2009 12:28 AM In reply to

    • DylanReeve
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    Re: Blacklisted Effects

    Oh, well... That's going to have a pretty big impact on all the promos I've been onlining lately. 

    Thankfully the flare-out/glow transition is still okay.

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  • Fri, Jun 5 2009 1:18 AM In reply to

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    Re: Blacklisted Effects

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  • Fri, Jun 5 2009 1:29 AM In reply to

    Re: Blacklisted Effects

    ianeditz:

    Timewarping of crane shots accompanied by "whooshing"

    Crash zooms as a transition

    Lens flares as a transition

    and inappropriate blur dissolves

    There goes just about every Discovery, History, and TLC show - I think even "Biggest Loser" utilized most of these techniques this past season.

    With regard to Timewarped crane/jib shots with a SFX applied, do they offer alternative suggestions?  Or should we just cut in the entire 3 min jib shot?

    Also, when is a blur dissolve deemed "inappropriate"?

     

     

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  • Fri, Jun 5 2009 2:05 AM In reply to

    Re: Blacklisted Effects

    ianeditz:
    ...and the neccesary disciplinary action will be taken...

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  • Fri, Jun 5 2009 2:17 AM In reply to

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    Re: Blacklisted Effects

    Oh darn, I missed the meeting! I was thinking of petitioning to reinstate clock-wipes.

    Are we still allowed to use a wavy-lines transition to get to our magenta flashback? Do you have the HSL specs for the particular shade of magenta?

    cheers

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  • Fri, Jun 5 2009 7:48 AM In reply to

    Re: Blacklisted Effects

    ianeditz:
    This years prohibited effects are as follows

    There goes just about every reality show.  They'll have to rely on the content now.

    Uh oh.

    adios,
    Carl

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  • Fri, Jun 5 2009 9:12 AM In reply to

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    Re: Blacklisted Effects

    right.... back to the "if you cant solve it, dissolve it"

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  • Fri, Jun 5 2009 9:46 AM In reply to

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    Re: Blacklisted Effects

    Any shade of Magenta will do, we are not control freaks!

    Big Smile

    There was a consensus that 2009 should be a retro year so clock wipes would fit the brief, I am working on a modern twist to the DVE cube but failing that I might just go really retro and use cuts.

    Ian

  • Fri, Jun 5 2009 9:55 AM In reply to

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    Re: Blacklisted Effects

    I'm happy to report that in the last month or so I've used no fewer than 4 clock-wipes. A few heart wipes, and a few coloured-border multibox wipes.

    If only I could easily make them all rotate and trail like in a good old GVG switcher.

    All of which went to air on national network television, BTW.

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  • Fri, Jun 5 2009 10:32 AM In reply to

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    Re: Blacklisted Effects

    Stop, you are making me feel nostalgic for all those hours wasted in dark rooms building slabs with 2 channels of DVE and having to get the front back switching spot on to make the effect disguise the cut perfectly.

    I must admit I have been struggling for my"trademark" transition since dips to white were outlawed in 2005 and then its B****** offspring the Glow and whoosh was outlawed last year.

    I experimented with using a 3 frame text wipe to do the trick but maybe I should have thought longer and harder about my choice of text. If I did perhaps I would still have that staff position.

     

    Ian

  • Fri, Jun 5 2009 10:44 AM In reply to

    Re: Blacklisted Effects

    Hi Ian,

    ianeditz:
    I might just go really retro and use cuts.

    This is embarassing, but what are "cuts"?  I looked through the whole effect palette and I couldn't find any "cuts" anywhere.

    thanks,
    Carl

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  • Fri, Jun 5 2009 11:10 AM In reply to

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    Re: Blacklisted Effects

    Hapy to help, I am working on a video tutorial as I know that cuts are a tricky thing to get your head round especially for the new whippersnappers brought up on FCP.

    Park up between 2 segments on your timeline and then from the effects pallette drag and drop any transitional effect to the junction and then change the duration to 0 frames and voila you have a cut. If you set the duration to 1 frame you can get a cut reminiscent of a sticky tape steenbeck join. Experiment and be happy

     

    Ian 

  • Fri, Jun 5 2009 11:19 AM In reply to

    Re: Blacklisted Effects

    Nice one!  If you don't mind, I'm going to do a little write up for the Tips & Tutorials section.

    adios,
    Carl

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    Carl Amoscato | Freelance Film & Video Editor | London, UK

  • Fri, Jun 5 2009 11:27 AM In reply to

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    Re: Blacklisted Effects

    ianeditz:
    Hapy to help, I am working on a video tutorial as I know that cuts are a tricky thing to get your head round especially for the new whippersnappers brought up on FCP.

    I dont get it.

    Without a transition to link the two shots together how will the audience know they're related? And what sound effect would you put with a cut?

    You guys are so avant garde!

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