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  • Thu, Oct 17 2024 3:46 AM In reply to

    • jaygon
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    Re: 5.1 exporting LFE with no audio

    Bruno M:

    jaygon:
    As for attachment download, not sure why it's not working....my PM to you bounced back as well Confused

    Not sure what's happening here. Checked my email in Settings and it's correct.

    How about this Wetransfer link... can you download the document?

    https://we.tl/t-l08lHdGqbn

    Got it! Much appreciated

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  • Thu, Oct 24 2024 12:39 AM In reply to

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    Re: 5.1 exporting LFE with no audio

    Philip Kapadia:

    We logged this as: MCCET-5709 5.1 Exports not correct with LFE and sometimes incorrect track ordering

    Hello Philip, Wondering if there's any update on this?

    Or is there a way I can follow this Case Number you quoted?

    Thanks

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  • Thu, Oct 24 2024 7:11 AM In reply to

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    Re: 5.1 exporting LFE with no audio

    I've had no update on this for around a week or so.

    I'm guessing no fix until they sort out the bug and release the next version?

    My workaround for now is not to rely on Media Composer but use Davinci Resolve instead.

    Using Fairlight makes it easy to assign the correct channels/panning and the exports all seem correct.

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  • Thu, Oct 24 2024 10:52 PM In reply to

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    Re: 5.1 exporting LFE with no audio

    Bruno M:

    I've had no update on this for around a week or so.

    I'm guessing no fix until they sort out the bug and release the next version?

    My workaround for now is not to rely on Media Composer but use Davinci Resolve instead.

    Using Fairlight makes it easy to assign the correct channels/panning and the exports all seem correct.

    Thanks Bruno,

     

    I guess I'll do the same. I still find it mystifying why a problem of this magnitude is not causing widespread havic amongst editors and crazy that we have to jump ship to get reliable 5.1 exports

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  • Thu, Oct 24 2024 10:58 PM In reply to

    Re: 5.1 exporting LFE with no audio

    jaygon:

    Philip Kapadia:

    We logged this as: MCCET-5709 5.1 Exports not correct with LFE and sometimes incorrect track ordering

    Hello Philip, Wondering if there's any update on this?

    Or is there a way I can follow this Case Number you quoted?

    Thanks

    It's a bug we logged about 7 days ago, it's on the backlog. 

    You can find out if this and other bugs have been resolved by consulting the readme for subsequent versions of Media Composer. 

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  • Thu, Oct 24 2024 11:19 PM In reply to

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    Re: 5.1 exporting LFE with no audio

    Philip Kapadia:

    It's a bug we logged about 7 days ago, it's on the backlog. 

    You can find out if this and other bugs have been resolved by consulting the readme for subsequent versions of Media Composer. 

    Media Composer 2024 Documentation: https://avidtech.my.salesforce-sites.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Knowledge/Media-Composer-2024-Documentation

    Thanks Philip

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  • Sun, Dec 15 2024 4:32 PM In reply to

    Re: 5.1 exporting LFE with no audio

    jaygon:
    Thanks for the reply. When I receive interleaved files the above works for me. Thank you!

    However if the 5.1 is delivered as 6 seperate MONO tracks I can't get it to work no matter what I try. Even if I check the 'Autodetect Broadcast WAVe Monphonic groups' setting and force Avid to interpret it as a single file, it's all scrambled.

     

    So is the take home here that I can only work with 5.1 as interleaved?

     

    And what I find most confusing is why very few others seem to be having this problem. 

     

    When you receive 6 monophonic clips and link or import them into MC, they will be imported in Pro Tools order (which is the order in which MC works under the hood anyway). So after import/link you need to tell MC that the imported clip is in PT order. After that, it will properly route everything, even if your output and/or meter monitoring is set to SMPTE.

    What can be tough to get your head around, is that the multichannel settings for a clip are not there for you to tell MC what channel order you _want_ them to be, but it lets you tell MC what the actual channel order _is_. And weirdly enough, sometimes that's hard to tell, because is you bring in 6 monophonic tracks, MC will bring them in in a channel order without you having any say in the matter, nor do you necessarily know what that order is. You can verify the order, of course, but it is somewhat confusing.

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  • Tue, Apr 15 2025 11:31 AM In reply to

    • Bruno M
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    Re: 5.1 exporting LFE with no audio

    Just as an Update to this bug, I received this from Avid support...

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    With regards to your open concern on MCCET-5709: "5.1 Exports not correct with LFE and sometimes incorrect track ordering", 
    our Engineering team is still working on a fix for this.
    
    In the meantime, let us know if we can close this case while waiting for the fix, and once our Engineering team provides a fix
     for this bug, rest assured we will re-open this and update you the soonest.
    ------------------------------------------------
    It's been over six months since this problem surfaced, so it looks like it's not going to be an easy fix
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  • Tue, Apr 15 2025 5:19 PM In reply to

    Re: 5.1 exporting LFE with no audio

    However if the 5.1 is delivered as 6 seperate MONO tracks I can't get it to work no matter what I try. Even if I check the 'Autodetect Broadcast WAVe Monphonic groups' setting and force Avid to interpret it as a single file, it's all scrambled.
    If you import or Link those, MC will bring them in in Pro Tools order, not SMPTE order. All you need to do os flag the resulting import as being in PT order.

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