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  • Wed, Jul 20 2022 4:08 PM

    • Rory T
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    Avid LUT/MultiGroup Issue

    Hello, I am having a really odd issue with LUTS and Multigroup.  I am applying the LUT to the source clip but it is not updating to the clip being used in the sequence.   But if I match frame back to the multigroup and then to the clip the LUT is applied and is in Source Settings.  I have tried deleting and reapplying the LUT, copying the bin into a new project, new user settings and the "Bypass FrameFlex & LUT in Performance Critical modes" setting in Video Display in both ticked and unticked.  Refreshing Sequence after each change. It is not happening with all sequences.  Some sequences behave as expected.  If you click the multigroup 9 way split on the record monitor to bring it up the in the source monitor the LUT appears on the sequence.  Come out of 9 way split mode the LUT disappears from the sequence again.  Also, it does "feel" like it is refreshing anything. On the sequence it works on you can tell the computer does something with a slight delay, but on the sequences it does work on it is immediate to click things again.  Any help or advise is greatly appreciated.
    Thank you,  Rory Windows 10, AMC 2018.12.13 Edit: I have no idea why the formatting is so bad, it is not when I try to edit the post to fix.  Sorry
  • Thu, Jul 21 2022 11:19 AM In reply to

    • Rory T
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    Re: Avid LUT/MultiGroup Issue

    Here is Avid's official response.

     

    "Thank you for contacting Avid.

    When applying a LUT or a Frameflex to a source clip, we advise you to transcode the source clip for the source transformation to apply.

    In the transcode window, there are checkboxes besides "Apply source transformations".

    Kindly tick those checkboxes then proceed with the transcoding.

    See if using these transcoded clips could help with the issue.


    Thank you very much."

     

    Re-transcode multigrouped clips... I am flabbergasted.  

  • Thu, Jul 21 2022 2:35 PM In reply to

    • Mike Brodeur
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    Re: Avid LUT/MultiGroup Issue

    Have you tried selecting the sequence in the bin, the using the (right click) Refresh Sequence option? 

  • Thu, Jul 21 2022 2:59 PM In reply to

    • Rory T
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    Re: Avid LUT/MultiGroup Issue

    Thank you for replying.   Yes, afer each change we would try that.  

    I actually got to the bottom of it though. It turns out there was a semi-corrupt LUT. I am not even sure how this can happen but it was working on some sequences but not all and was working on the source clip of the sequences it was not working on.
    I asked the client to re-supply the LUT amd that worked as expected which is great news.

    It was so confusing.

    Thankfully it is fixed now, because I did not know what to try next.

    Thank you, Rory

     

  • Tue, Apr 4 2023 2:09 PM In reply to

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    Re: Avid LUT/MultiGroup Issue

    Hi Rory, I know it's been a while since you posted about this but I'm having the same issue as you did.  I've deleted the old "corrupt" LUT from the project folder and applied a generic one from avid's stock set of options (actually have tried a few).  I'm still unable to get the multigroup to show the LUT.  Was there another step involved besides bringing in and adding the updated file from the DP?  Thank you!

     

     

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  • Wed, Apr 5 2023 2:06 PM In reply to

    • iwb
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    Re: Avid LUT/MultiGroup Issue

    Following up after a call with AVid support. This is just how Avid works now - the engineers turned off fx to multigroups starting with 2021.  Apparently it caused other issues.  There is a known feature request but for now, bake in the LUT before multigrouping.

  • Wed, Apr 5 2023 6:34 PM In reply to

    • Rory T
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    Re: Avid LUT/MultiGroup Issue

    I think the only other thing to do is to refresh the sequences.  Right click your sequence in its bin and go to REFRESH SEQUENCE.  Then select COLOR ADAPTERS(I think you can select colour adaptors from here or just click ALL).  If you are on Media Composer First you will only have the Refesh Sequence option which will do all. 

    https://community.avid.com/forums/p/181277/845051.aspx

  • Thu, Apr 6 2023 1:58 PM In reply to

    • iwb
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    Re: Avid LUT/MultiGroup Issue

    Yeah, but the editor and director will want to see a lut in the source monitor.  I went back and transcoded with a lut applied. Ticking those boxes.  Thank you for the response Rory!

  • Fri, Apr 7 2023 7:11 PM In reply to

    • Rory T
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    Re: Avid LUT/MultiGroup Issue

    This is crazy!  There is a massive flaw in workflow if this is the case.  Has there been any release from Avid stating that LUTs have to be baked in before multigrouping (and therefore cannot be changed or manipulated after)? In my case the AEs would have to transcode 55TB of media doubling the space needed for the series too.

    I cannot find anything online about it online. 

    Either way my issue was with version 2018.  Here is another person having similar: https://www.reddit.com/r/editors/comments/l29yk9/avid_issue_no_lut_applied_after_multigroup/

  • Fri, Sep 8 2023 11:09 AM In reply to

    Re: Avid LUT/MultiGroup Issue

    Hi, LUTs DO work in multicam, just not by default. There is a setting under "Video Display" called "Bypass Frameflex & LUT FX in performance-critical modes (multicam split, render-on-the-fly off, playout to DV device).

    Turn it off and then refresh your sequence and your LUTs are now applied in your timeline and your quad/nine split. This is working in 2018.12.15.

    I find it strange that Avid's own support people didn't immediately direct you to that.

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