I've got a bunch of 18fps (super8) media cut into a 24fps project.
Quicktime 7 reports that there is a Timecode track, but Avid's timecode burn-in effect just shows N.A. for source clip timecode.
Trying to export an EDL just shows me 0:00:00:00 for source clip timecode on these clips.
Any thoughts on what Avid's problem with this source media is? Can it just not speak/read 18fps (or any non-broadcast standard) timecode? Is there any way to generate an EDL to send these edits to online?
Thanks in advance for any thoughts!
Hmm.. is there such a thing as 18fps timecode??
But equally as important, what kind of codecs are these files in? Are they quicktimes? MXFs? Image sequences? Could be it's a codec that doesn't support TC, but I lean towards AVID just has no idea what to do with such a thing.
When you say "generate ... for online," what machine do you mean exactly? If it's a Resolve, try bringing some clips in and see what TC Resolve reports. If it also reports a start time as "0:00:00:00" you MIGHT be okay. If it does not, then I can see three options:
1) Change the clip's starting timecode value in Resolve, then relink to the edit list
2) Export a mixdown'd sequence for finishing straight out of AVID
3) Look into the old standby program "QT Change" from Video Tool Shed. I haven't used it in years, but it can change things on Quicktimes like timecode.
Good luck,
j
Hi Jason,
Thanks for your thoughts!
No I don't believe there IS such a thing as 18fps timecode. But something at the film scan/transfer house definitely generated a timecode track that QT7 can see.
Our sources are QT ProRes. Importing/transcoding in Avid to DNx MXFs.
So even if Avid just don't know how to interpret 18fps timecode (FINE.), is there some way to have the EDL based on counter time from 0:00:00:00 based on its 18fps framerate? Or to windowburn counter time or clip frame number instead of timecode?
We need to export an EDL to send to finishing house so they can conform from the camera sources, color, finish, etc. Not sure what they use, but the EDL itself just shows start & end time as 0:00:00:00 for the clips in question, so there's no info there.
Any chance you can set a project-based TC through Aux TC or TC24? Meaning, at least you could then manually add an MC-readable TC to the clip, which you could track in an EDL. Spitballing here.
I do believe that's indeed a historic use of the AUX category, but to me, it's also irrelevant because the scenario is no different than the other jobs that mix and match source clips (and frame-rates/tc) for an edit...is it not the same situation if one is editing, say 23.98 using 29.97 clips? Or, more applicable, one is editing with mp4s which DON'T carry timecode?
My point is, as long as the conforming tool reads these clips the same way the AVID does, it shouldn't matter what the heck the source clips are carrying.
Jason Sedmak:is it not the same situation if one is editing, say 23.98 using 29.97 clips?
I gotcha... 'tho the math on that makes me head hurt!
I'd just manually copy the clip's starting TC to the TC24 column, and then MC tracks from there as it were a 24fps clip. On the conform side, they may do the same thing, and as longs as everyone tracks each frame and counts as 24TC, all will line up.
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