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  • Sat, Nov 20 2021 2:06 PM

    • Camillo
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    What is "hardware baseband encoding"?

    Hello. Saw this feature advertised in the DNxID product description.

    What I am looking for is an external hardware encoder/decoder that can noticably hurry up encoding to DNxHD and DNxHR of video files and help with the display of media with those codecs. Does "hardware baseband encoding" cover this?

    Thank you for any info!

    I am using Media Composer on a slim-spec MacBookPro and will purchase an M1 device soon. Still waiting for Avid to release recommended specs for M1, though.

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  • Sat, Nov 20 2021 5:22 PM In reply to

    Re: What is "hardware baseband encoding"?

    Even with an Avid IO box the encoding is limited to capturing from tape (or live)

    So no there isn't an option. 

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  • Sat, Nov 20 2021 9:49 PM In reply to

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    Re: What is "hardware baseband encoding"?

    Thanks for the quick answer, Pat.

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  • Sat, Nov 20 2021 10:12 PM In reply to

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    Re: What is "hardware baseband encoding"?

    Pat, the link in your sig points to vet.co.uk

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  • Sat, Nov 20 2021 10:44 PM In reply to

    Re: What is "hardware baseband encoding"?

    Thanks. 

    I'll update but no big deal. 

    Only a few months and I'm retiring so the company links will go. 

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  • Sat, Nov 20 2021 11:22 PM In reply to

    Re: What is "hardware baseband encoding"?

    Camillo:

    Hello. Saw this feature advertised in the DNxID product description.

    What I am looking for is an external hardware encoder/decoder that can noticably hurry up encoding to DNxHD and DNxHR of video files and help with the display of media with those codecs. Does "hardware baseband encoding" cover this?

    Thank you for any info!

    I am using Media Composer on a slim-spec MacBookPro and will purchase an M1 device soon. Still waiting for Avid to release recommended specs for M1, though.

    I'm not sure there is much more you can do to speed up encoding other than to upgrade your system specs. I do have some anecdotal evidence from editors using older versions of Media Composer that suggests having a Nitris/DNxIQ speeds up the timeline performance, but that's it. 

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  • Sun, Nov 21 2021 6:13 AM In reply to

    Re: What is "hardware baseband encoding"?

    The older Adrenaline hardware was fed firewire data from the computer and the IO decompressed that internally to the various physical outputs so reduced CPU loads. 

    But that was when the actual computers were massively less powerful than now. 

    The best performance is a high clock speed CPU with 8 cores or more (or even twin cpus)

    Plenty of the fastest ram the motherboard supports (128Gb) in the best ram configuration for speed.

    An M2 flash drive and a mid range GPU with plenty of RAM.

     

     

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  • Tue, Nov 23 2021 10:45 AM In reply to

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    Re: What is "hardware baseband encoding"?

    OK, understood. I was remembering hearsay information from decades ago and wishfully interpolating it onto today's I/O hardware. Getting old is nice.

    One request, time and leisure permitting, can someone tell me what the term "baseband encoding" means? It is specific technical jargon or marketing fill words? Thanks for all the info this far!

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  • Sat, Jan 15 2022 5:47 PM In reply to

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    Re: What is "hardware baseband encoding"?

    Camillo:
    One request, time and leisure permitting, can someone tell me what the term "baseband encoding" means? It is specific technical jargon or marketing fill words? Thanks for all the info this far!

    You've probably long since given up waiting for an answer, but in case this leisurely answer finds you: 'Baseband' encoding merely means that the input hardware compresses and encodes the SDI/HDMI uncompressed signal to the system format and codec at capture, in real time. In the days of yore, transfer protocols, bandwidth and pc power were insufficient to do this and so devices like Adrenaline, for example, would have hardware on board for this function. Nowadays with Thunderbolt and PCIe etc., there is more than enough bandwidth and pc power to do this onboard. Since there is also very little real time capture anymore either it is unclear why some Avid branded units still need to do this. H264 outboard hardware encoding for streaming still has a use though.

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  • Tue, May 24 2022 4:43 AM In reply to

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    Re: What is "hardware baseband encoding"?

    Many thanks for this explanation.

     

    Mercer:

    You've probably long since given up waiting for an answer, but in case this leisurely answer finds you: 'Baseband' encoding merely means that the input hardware compresses and encodes the SDI/HDMI uncompressed signal to the system format and codec at capture, in real time. In the days of yore, transfer protocols, bandwidth and pc power were insufficient to do this and so devices like Adrenaline, for example, would have hardware on board for this function. Nowadays with Thunderbolt and PCIe etc., there is more than enough bandwidth and pc power to do this onboard. Since there is also very little real time capture anymore either it is unclear why some Avid branded units still need to do this. H264 outboard hardware encoding for streaming still has a use though.

     

    MacBookPro 15-inch, late 2013 Catalina 10.15.7 [view my complete system specs]
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