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  • Fri, Nov 12 2021 5:56 PM

    • brian
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    upgrade from MC 2019.12 to 2021.9... all seems slower

    we did an upgrade from MC 2019.12 to 2021.9 last night and i'm finding renders and exports signifianctly slower. We did an upgrade from an older nitris box to the avid artist DNX IQ earlier in the week and I found no render or export speed changes. Now with the Avid update, I see the speed... I'd say at least 25 but maybe 50% slower. Did the Nvidea driver update to what's specified by Avid, but wonder if we're now short on Ram? I've got 32GB on a Xenon ES-2630 v3 @ 2.40GHz - 2.40GHz (2 processors) 

    Avid 2021.9 Intel Xeon CPU E5-2630 v3 @ 2.40GHz 2.40GHz (2 processors) 32.0 GB RAM 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor Windows 10 Enterprise... [view my complete system specs]

  • Sat, Nov 13 2021 11:42 AM In reply to

    Re: upgrade from MC 2019.12 to 2021.9... all seems slower

    brian:

    we did an upgrade from MC 2019.12 to 2021.9 last night and i'm finding renders and exports signifianctly slower. We did an upgrade from an older nitris box to the avid artist DNX IQ earlier in the week and I found no render or export speed changes. Now with the Avid update, I see the speed... I'd say at least 25 but maybe 50% slower. Did the Nvidea driver update to what's specified by Avid, but wonder if we're now short on Ram? I've got 32GB on a Xenon ES-2630 v3 @ 2.40GHz - 2.40GHz (2 processors) 

    What sort of renders are you doing? What codecs do you use?

    I'm wondering if it's a specific codec/project... or rendering and exporting any material is just slower. 

    32 Gigs of fast ram should be enough. Are you using DDR4 ram?

    Editing Movie Magic.

    My Equipment & System Specs

  • Sat, Nov 13 2021 7:08 PM In reply to

    • TVJohn
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    Re: upgrade from MC 2019.12 to 2021.9... all seems slower

    32 GB for dual processors may be a bit shy. That CPU supports 4 memory channels of DDR4. Probably wise to review your motherboards manual befoe adding memory. Always a good idea to create new user settings in MC.

    Some older machines work better with 2019, so that remains a no cost option option.

    Dell Display U2713HM(2560x1440), AMD FX8350 8core, AMD 990FX mobo, 32gig-DDR3-1600, Quadro K620/GTX260/core 216, Audigy2zs, 1TB SSD system drive, 2TB SATA... [view my complete system specs]

    Using MC 21.12. Win 21H2  Avid FX6.4, Vegas Pro 19/ DVD Architect 6pro, DVDit6.4proHD, CCE Basic, TmpGe Express4, TmpGe Authoring Works 4, DVDLab-Studio. Sony EX-1R, Canon XH-A1, GL2, GL1, Canon EOS 60D

  • Sun, Nov 14 2021 12:07 AM In reply to

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    Re: upgrade from MC 2019.12 to 2021.9... all seems slower

    Those Xeons date from 2014, though once powerful the system may not be ideal for Avid 2021. Further ram may not yield huge performance increases, 2019 as mentioned will most likely perform better.

    MC with Symphony option, 2021.6, HP ZBook 17 G5, i7-8850H 6 core/64GB ram/512 M2 ssd/Nvidia Quadro P5200/16GB/FHD, HP Thunderbolt Dock G2, BMD Ultrastudio... [view my complete system specs]
  • Sun, Nov 14 2021 5:20 AM In reply to

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    Re: upgrade from MC 2019.12 to 2021.9... all seems slower

    Yeah, age sneaks up. Probably an idea to run Windows Task Manager during a render to see CPU and RAM usage.

    Dell Display U2713HM(2560x1440), AMD FX8350 8core, AMD 990FX mobo, 32gig-DDR3-1600, Quadro K620/GTX260/core 216, Audigy2zs, 1TB SSD system drive, 2TB SATA... [view my complete system specs]

    Using MC 21.12. Win 21H2  Avid FX6.4, Vegas Pro 19/ DVD Architect 6pro, DVDit6.4proHD, CCE Basic, TmpGe Express4, TmpGe Authoring Works 4, DVDLab-Studio. Sony EX-1R, Canon XH-A1, GL2, GL1, Canon EOS 60D

  • Tue, Nov 16 2021 9:48 PM In reply to

    • brian
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    Re: upgrade from MC 2019.12 to 2021.9... all seems slower

    Renders are often with BCC or Sapphire. This today has two BCC layers on it. CPU use shows about 10 percent during render, but Ram is 90%+ in use.  

    Avid 2021.9 Intel Xeon CPU E5-2630 v3 @ 2.40GHz 2.40GHz (2 processors) 32.0 GB RAM 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor Windows 10 Enterprise... [view my complete system specs]

  • Wed, Nov 17 2021 3:48 PM In reply to

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    Re: upgrade from MC 2019.12 to 2021.9... all seems slower

    I try to close everything not needeed during renders, if task manager shows the majority of RAM assigned to the render operation and low CPU usage, you'll have to decide if its worth investing in more memory $$ in an ageing machine or to simply revert to 2019.**

    Dell Display U2713HM(2560x1440), AMD FX8350 8core, AMD 990FX mobo, 32gig-DDR3-1600, Quadro K620/GTX260/core 216, Audigy2zs, 1TB SSD system drive, 2TB SATA... [view my complete system specs]

    Using MC 21.12. Win 21H2  Avid FX6.4, Vegas Pro 19/ DVD Architect 6pro, DVDit6.4proHD, CCE Basic, TmpGe Express4, TmpGe Authoring Works 4, DVDLab-Studio. Sony EX-1R, Canon XH-A1, GL2, GL1, Canon EOS 60D

  • Thu, Nov 18 2021 10:00 AM In reply to

    Re: upgrade from MC 2019.12 to 2021.9... all seems slower

    Latests versions of MC do need a better and faster computer (CPU RAM etc.)

    This is the case for all software.

    Desktop PC

     

    Corsair RM750X|Asus Ζ690 TUF Gaming WiFi D4|i5 12600K@4.9|Corsair 128G DDR4 3200|PNY Quadro P2000(472.47)|Samsung 980 MVME 500GB (OS)|2X1TB Samsung 980 NVME RAID 0|2x1TB Crucial MX500 Backups|LG BH16NS40|W10 Pro 64bit|Media Composer Software 2021.9 with Symphony Option on Dongle|Samsung 4K 32'' Monitor|M-Audio AV30 Speakers.

     

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