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  • Mon, Dec 2 2019 9:51 PM

    • Mark Job
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    Hot Rodding An Older MacBook Pro to Edit 4K Video Question

    Hi Editors:

                     I've got this older, but non the less Avid Certified to run MC 8.5.0 Early Spring 2011 17 inch MacBook Pro. I like it very much, as the screen realestate is much easier on my eyes on those 15 Hour post sessions I keep on doing than trying to edit on a mickey mouse 13 inch MBP screen. It has a decent enough dual GPU solution in it - Intel Graphics HD 3000, and an AMD Radeon HD6750m power GPU with 1GB of GDDR5 dedicated video RAM on board the card. Via my machines Thunderbolt 1 interface, (Also Mini Display Port Interface) I can output to a DP port, or Thunderbolt 1/2 port equiped display upto 2.7K video resolution. Not bad for a lappy.

                      For the last two weeks I have been researching the possibility of turbo charging up my MBP version 8.3 in the graphics department, by using an external eGPU device, such as the Black Magic Radeon Pro 580 eGPU box or similar solution. There is an article on how to use an eGPU with an older MacBook Pro. Here's a link to that process -  https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac/egpu-mac-3690094/    I will also require an Apple Thunderbolt 1/2 to USB C adaptor like this - https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01MQ26QIY/?coliid=I3EZZB8O2D51JF&colid=3ERCHFZOVWXFW&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

     

                      *My question is Media Composer able to use the graphics output and general processing horsepower of an external GPU ?

     

    Mark Job

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  • Mon, Dec 2 2019 10:34 PM In reply to

    • Leo Baker
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    Re: Hot Rodding An Older MacBook Pro to Edit 4K Video Question

    Hello Mark,

    I believe the Blackmagic EGPU will only work on Thunerbolt 3 connections. It won't be compatibe at all due to speeds etc.

    Leo

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  • Mon, Dec 2 2019 10:43 PM In reply to

    • Mark Job
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    Re: Hot Rodding An Older MacBook Pro to Edit 4K Video Question

    Hi Leo:

    Leo Baker:
    I believe the Blackmagic EGPU will only work on Thunerbolt 3 connections. It won't be compatibe at all due to speeds etc.
    .....Normally yes, but there's a very interesting work around for this if you follow the article link I listed in my initial post. This article shows how to configure an eGPU for any Thunderbolt connection. For my situation, I am a boutique operation and to eat an upgrade to the latest MacBook Pro 16 inch max configuration for video editing would be over three times the price. I was considering (giving the eGPU Box solution) a try, but was wondering how MC would perform under such a configuration. 

     

    Mark

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  • Wed, Dec 4 2019 2:08 AM In reply to

    • DStone
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    Re: Hot Rodding An Older MacBook Pro to Edit 4K Video Question

    I'm not a Mac expert, but on the PC side of the world, MC will only use the primary GPU (i.e. the one on the video card), unlike Resolve which can use other GPUs. I suspect the same for the Mac. This is a better question for the MC - Mac subforum.

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  • Wed, Dec 4 2019 7:24 AM In reply to

    Re: Hot Rodding An Older MacBook Pro to Edit 4K Video Question

    My 2011 MBP died of the infamous Gfx card failure that I have been told pretty much all of them will eventually succumb to. I would be very, very cautious investing in a 9 year old laptop.

    i would also argue that MC is unlikely able to use any secondary Gfx cards anyway.

    i hated having to give up the 17" screen, but so far my 15" MBP has been great. Stay away from the 16" one for now as it will only run Catalina, which won't run MC.

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  • Wed, Dec 18 2019 6:55 AM In reply to

    • Mark Job
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    Re: Hot Rodding An Older MacBook Pro to Edit 4K Video Question

    Hi Job:

    Job ter Burg:
    My 2011 MBP died of the infamous Gfx card failure that I have been told pretty much all of them will eventually succumb to.
    ....Which version of the 2011 MacBook Pro did you have that died ? There are two different versions - Early Spring 2011 with the ATI Radeon 6750m GPU with 1 GB of GDDR 5 dedicated RAM, or the later in the year 2011's with the ATI Radeon 6770m 1 GB dedicated RAM (There are reports some had a MacBook Pro with 512 MB Dedicated GDDR 5 vRAM on the GPU). Biblical advice on the investment risk on a 9 year old lappy.

     

    Sincerely,

    Mark Job

    Now Newer Avid Certified MacBook Pro version 8.3 early 2011 with Core i7 (2720 QM) Quad 2.2 GHz CPU with a 6 MB Shared L3 Cache , 16 GB of DDR 3 - 1333... [view my complete system specs]

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  • Wed, Dec 18 2019 7:39 AM In reply to

    Re: Hot Rodding An Older MacBook Pro to Edit 4K Video Question

    Mine was early 2011. But Radeongate applied to all those dual-gpu MBP's, AFAIK.

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  • Wed, Dec 18 2019 8:06 AM In reply to

    • Mark Job
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    Re: Hot Rodding An Older MacBook Pro to Edit 4K Video Question

    Hi Job:

    Job ter Burg:
    Mine was early 2011. But Radeongate applied to all those dual-gpu MBP's, AFAIK.
    ....Oh no ! Will I blow up another laptop ? Hmmmm. Not good news.

     

    Mark J.

    Now Newer Avid Certified MacBook Pro version 8.3 early 2011 with Core i7 (2720 QM) Quad 2.2 GHz CPU with a 6 MB Shared L3 Cache , 16 GB of DDR 3 - 1333... [view my complete system specs]

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  • Wed, Dec 18 2019 9:06 PM In reply to

    Re: Hot Rodding An Older MacBook Pro to Edit 4K Video Question

    Honestly, to the best of my knowledge, eventually, all of these puppies die due to the bad Radeons. I would not waste any money on it. I've been tempted to send mine out for 'Radeon-bypass-surgery', but even then it is tricky to update the OS, and sleep mode won't work. And the *** thing is close to 10 yrs old. I think I'll throw a Linux system on it and use it as a copy station.

    O, and I don't think it will properly run anything like Mojave or up, unless you use some third party tool to work around that. Seriously, there are better hobbies in the world.

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