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  • Fri, Jul 29 2016 5:35 PM

    Replacement for Quadro 4000

    The Quadro 4000 card in my Z800 just died.

    I'm having trouble finding a replacement since the Quadro 4000 is EOL.   I don't want buy a used or refurbrished card.   

    Can I use a Quadro K4200 in the Z800?   According to the Avid Configuration Matrix, only the Quadro 4000 is specified for the z800.   But if I've got to replace the card, the K4200 would double the memory of the 4000 and I could add a third display to keep open the audio mixer, etc.   The K series is PCI Express 2.0, which should be compatible with the z800.

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  • Fri, Jul 29 2016 7:56 PM In reply to

    • ronn
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    Re: Replacement for Quadro 4000

    hey Terry

    Good to see you posting.

    Yes...  either the Q4000 or the K4000 work.

    Marianna

     

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  • Fri, Jul 29 2016 9:58 PM In reply to

    • touviere7
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    Re: Replacement for Quadro 4000

    how about trying the m4000?

    you'd get 8GB memory.

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  • Sat, Jul 30 2016 2:56 PM In reply to

    Re: Replacement for Quadro 4000

    touviere7:

    how about trying the m4000?

    you'd get 8GB memory.

    I was looking at the M4000, but the "M" series Quadros are PCI-E 3.  My Z800's motherboard is PCI-E 2.    The "K" series is the highest Quadro series that's PCI-E 2   I was told that you can't put PCI-E 3 card on PCI-E 2 motherboard.

     

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  • Sat, Jul 30 2016 2:58 PM In reply to

    Re: Replacement for Quadro 4000

    ronn:

    ...either the Q4000 or the K4000 work.

    Thanks for the quick reply, Ronn.   My terrific supplier, IT Creations, Fed-Ex'd the video card and I plugged it this morning and it works like a charm!

     

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  • Sat, Jul 30 2016 5:32 PM In reply to

    Re: Replacement for Quadro 4000

    After testing the system, I don't notice any significant performance increase with the new card.  

    Do I have to do anything to tell MC that I'm now using a 4GB card?   (I already updated the driver.)   Or does the real benefit come when I jump to MC 8.5 and 4K?  I'm currently still on MC 7 cutting broadcast HD.

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  • Sat, Jul 30 2016 5:49 PM In reply to

    • TVJohn
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    Re: Replacement for Quadro 4000

    No, many people are surprised after spending big on an expensive Quadro. I am doing nicely with a 620 with 2 gig memory. The real key is that you need at least 2 Gig memory.

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  • Sat, Jul 30 2016 8:53 PM In reply to

    Re: Replacement for Quadro 4000

    TVJohn:
    No, many people are surprised after spending big on an expensive Quadro.

    I was tempted to go with a non-Quadro, but having spent $$$ on a fully qualified system, I decided to play it safe and stay with the Quadro.  Since it's my main--and only--system and I use it for my livelihood, I decided not to roll the dice. 

    TVJohn:
    The real key is that you need at least 2 Gig memory.

    Makes sense.   I already had 2GB with the Q4000.   I've haven't cut 4K yet...where I've read that 4GB will make a difference.

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  • Mon, Aug 1 2016 12:50 PM In reply to

    • Mark
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    Re: Replacement for Quadro 4000

    I too replaced a Q4000 with a K4200 on a PCIe2 system a while back. Works fine. K4200 is end of the road for PCIe2 AFAIK. Couldn't endure Q4000 fan noise any longer even when using sealed headphones instead of speakers. Loud as a window air conditioner. Higher pitch. Anyone wanna buy a used, old VGA card?

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  • Mon, Aug 1 2016 2:35 PM In reply to

    Re: Replacement for Quadro 4000

    Mark:
    K4200 is end of the road for PCIe2 AFAIK.

    The viability of putting a PCIe3 card into a PCIe2 system is unclear to me.   Some sources say it works with very little (less than 5%) downgrade in performance.   Other sources say don't do it.   I decided to play it safe with the K series over the M series.

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  • Tue, Aug 2 2016 3:07 AM In reply to

    • hagi
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    Re: Replacement for Quadro 4000

    My z800 also failed sometime ago and I replaced it with Quadro FX5800, and everything is working fine

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  • Wed, Aug 3 2016 12:36 AM In reply to

    • cuervo
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    Re: Replacement for Quadro 4000

    Been running an Asus Z97 (PCIe 3.0) with a Quadro K4200(PCIe 2.0). Works pretty good in HD, tends to choke with DNxHR 4k footage. I just ordered a GTX 1070 (PCIe 3.0)as a second GPU. I know Media Composer doesn't leverage off of a second GPU, but this is a test to improve my Davinci Resolve issues. One experiment I plan to perform is to set the GTX1070 as my main GPU fro MC, just to see if the performance improves.

     

    I've done quite a bit of research on Quadro vs GTX. All things considered, a Quadro card that matches the performance of a GTX1070 would cost me thousands of dollars. Since I work for myself; and, don't have an employer to pay for a SOA Quadro, I'll see how well this $400 GTC 1070 works.

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  • Thu, Aug 4 2016 1:52 AM In reply to

    • carlgmi
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    Re: Replacement for Quadro 4000

    Very interested to see how you go with the 1070.  About to do a Xeon upgrade to the workstation and was also considering a 1070 in combo with my K4000 for use in Davinci and Adobe...

    Please report your success or otherwise!, Cheers, Carl :)

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  • Sun, Aug 7 2016 11:52 AM In reply to

    • cuervo
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    Re: Replacement for Quadro 4000

    I received my GTX1070, yesterday. 

    First thing to note is that the earliest driver available from nVidia exceeds the spec driver from Avid. So, to install, I had to use a video driver not yet approved by Avid. After starting up, the first thing I notice is my Resolve stuttering issues are gone. nVidia provides a neat little GPU monitoring app that show GPU utilization. The new GTX card is running at about 17% while the original Quadro card is running about 24%. But, as I said, the stuttering playback is gone. I did a quick render out and it, too, seemed very fast(subjective, I know). 

    Moving on to Media Composer, so far I don't expect any changes. Confirmed by the utilization app that the GTX1070 is not being utilized, at all, no surprises there.Today, I will swap out the monitor connection and move it to the GTX card to see if Avid performs any better with this card than my older Quadro 4200.

    edit: Swapped video card so the GTX is now driving my main monitor. The second monitor is driven off of the Intel driver on Thunderbolt. Surprisingly, when I load Media Composer 8.6.1, the Quadro card still shows activity. However, now the GTX card also shows activity. Rather surprising, since the Quadro card is not connected to any display. Playback of the timeline seems to be smoother, still an occasional hiccup, but noticably better than playback thru the Quadro card. Go figure. As of yet, have not found any incompatibility between the GTX card, the unapproved drivers, and Media Composer, but, I'll keep testing.

    As a side note to any Avid people....please, please, PLEASE incorporate multiple GPU capability. I'm very happy with Resolve performance with this 2x video card setup.

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  • Sun, Aug 7 2016 4:16 PM In reply to

    Re: Replacement for Quadro 4000

    cuervo:
    The new GTX card is running at about 17% while the original Quadro card is running about 24%.

    So even in the worst performance scenario, the old Quadro card is not using 76% of its capability.   Make you wonder why all these hardware suppliers keep pushing expensive, high-performance cards for editing workstations?

     

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