Typhon2007: I would not be suprised that MC 7.0 was released with known bugs. Commercial calendar doesnt take care of final product quality. It was the case for MC6.0. For exemple the keyboard langage. That was an issue clearly identified by beta users. But it took months before that was fixed. I was so desapointed by that bad commercial behaviour.
I would not be suprised that MC 7.0 was released with known bugs.
Commercial calendar doesnt take care of final product quality.
It was the case for MC6.0. For exemple the keyboard langage. That was an issue clearly identified by beta users. But it took months before that was fixed. I was so desapointed by that bad commercial behaviour.
Name one piece of professional software that was released bug-free.
Pheral: Typhon2007: I would not be suprised that MC 7.0 was released with known bugs. Commercial calendar doesnt take care of final product quality. It was the case for MC6.0. For exemple the keyboard langage. That was an issue clearly identified by beta users. But it took months before that was fixed. I was so desapointed by that bad commercial behaviour. Name one piece of professional software that was released bug-free.
I can't....
Pheral:Name one piece of professional software that was released bug-free.
Video Toaster 4000! Love them Commodore's!
WWLD?
Hi,
Until someone opens a bug thread for M.C 7..The "Ctrl + ." to cancel rendering, doesn't work.I can't stop any rendering.
"When I spent 60k on a discreet edit digisuite system 10 years ago someone came up to me to offer fcp 2, I said it was a scam too." -Ric
Maybe the answer will be in the "7series"? A "7series" dedicated to only fixes.
Introducing MC 7.5, no new features "just no bugs!"
Of course there are too many system/hardware variables for that!
OK, Introducing MC 8, no new features "just no bugs!"
It's mathematically impossible to prove that any piece of complex code is bug free. And that includes the typical "Hello World" example given in every programming language (the code for Hello World may be simple and bug free, but there are thousands of lines of code in the OS behind it to make it show up on your screen).
The only major program that I am aware of that could claim to be bug free (not defect free; a defect is a bug that no one has run across yet) is Model 204, a database for the IBM mainframes. And it only took something like 20 years to get the reported bug list to zero. And it's been over 10 years since I worked for the company that developed it, so who knows what might have been introduced in the meantime.
Talking about there being bugs in a product is pretty useless. Everything on your computer is buggy. Period. The only worthwhile question is "Is there a bug that's holding you up?"
The idea of waiting till a .1 release before installing is based on .0 releases being more buggy than usual and anticipating that it will cause you problems. The fact of the matter is you won't know until you try. Even if a bug hits someone else, it may be environmental and not hit you.
Lack of support by 3rd party vendors for an upgraded product is not a bug. That's a project management issue (do you wait for everyone else to catch up before releasing, or do you release for those people who don't require the 3rd party product?)
Just my take on the whole subject.
Dave S.
BobbyMurcerFan:Name one peice of software as buggy and difficult to install as new releases of Media Composer have historically been.
Microsoft Windows???
Really? I've been running Windows 8 on a new laptop since December. Not a single crash *knock on wood* in seven months. And to update my laptop, including BIOS and drivers, all I have to do is click on a few icons. No manual uninstalls of previous versions, confusing Readmes or hard to find download links.
I'm not a fan of some of the Win 8 interface changes, but reliability or difficulties with updating have not been issues.
BobbyMurcerFan:Not a single crash *knock on wood* in seven months.
Even if this has been your expereince, you still can't reliably claim that Windwos 8 is "bug-free".
Of course not.
But trust me. I've sat on the other side of the screen trying to track bugs in software prior to release. No-one ever deliberately releases buggy code without identifying known issues. Note the word "known". A new software release always gets a severe punishing before it goes out the door. The more complex the software the more likely that bugs will slip through.
Different people use software in different ways. A completely invisible bug in one user's hands can become a glaringly obvious deal breaker in another's. It will always be so.
<<jwrl:
Different people use software in different ways. A completely invisible bug in one user's hands can become a glaringly obvious deal breaker in another's. It will always be so. >>
Oh so true. I started developing software in 1985, although nothing as complex as Avid. I typically found that 20% of the development time went to making the idea work, and 80% of the time went to locking it down so it didn't break.
For decades now, I have been utterly amazed at the creativity of end users who routinely extend the bounds of logic.
Avid is so complex that I would expect issues to pass through even a NASA level testing program.
My solution is simple, because I don't upgrade until I finish all current projects. By the time I get around to upgrading, the first patch is out.
newyankee: <<jwrl: Different people use software in different ways. A completely invisible bug in one user's hands can become a glaringly obvious deal breaker in another's. It will always be so. >> Oh so true. I started developing software in 1985, although nothing as complex as Avid. I typically found that 20% of the development time went to making the idea work, and 80% of the time went to locking it down so it didn't break. For decades now, I have been utterly amazed at the creativity of end users who routinely extend the bounds of logic. Avid is so complex that I would expect issues to pass through even a NASA level testing program. My solution is simple, because I don't upgrade until I finish all current projects. By the time I get around to upgrading, the first patch is out.
This solution only works if you ever finish all current projects. I always have 3 on the go at once!
Tony
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