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  • Wed, Apr 10 2013 12:18 PM

    • Tentaor
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    Low cost shared setup

    Hi! First one: I´m spanish so sorry for my poor english!

     

    I work in a small TV Production Center. We are looking for a low cost shared setup for our avid systems. We are newbies in shared storages. We need 2 systems working with the same clips at time. All material in a shared disk. ISIS seems to be to much costly for our little setup. It´s work for us a simple shared array of disk? We need edit XDCAM HD clips in MC6.5. Solutions? Thanks!

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  • Wed, Apr 10 2013 1:22 PM In reply to

    • luca.mg
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    Re: Low cost shared setup

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    peace luca

  • Thu, Apr 11 2013 8:14 AM In reply to

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    Re: Low cost shared setup

    Thanks for the link!

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  • Thu, Apr 11 2013 8:44 AM In reply to

    Re: Low cost shared setup

    It looks like prices could be on the way down.

    There are a lot of options but if you can stretch to an ISIS your life will be easier in the long run.

    The link to the open source solution is a lot of hard work on the IT side.

    Almost everyone I know who went with a budget slution says 2 years later looking back it would have been better to spend on a known off the shelf system. The lost time work stress and delayed jobs due to fine tuning or just plain limitations soon offsets the inital cash saving.

     

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    Re: Low cost shared setup

    Think about just duplicating the material to two different drives/raids whatever you like. You can sync new mediafiles via network. That should be the cheapest solution.

     

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  • Thu, Apr 11 2013 11:21 AM In reply to

    Re: Low cost shared setup

    udosauer:

    Think about just duplicating the material to two different drives/raids whatever you like. You can sync new mediafiles via network. That should be the cheapest solution.

     

    regards

    Udo

     

    And in fact it's what we and lots of folks do.

    True shared working isn't often needed and it's a lot less cost and admin to run duplicate media setups and move media aroudn in the background. On a 1Gb network you can move media pretty quick.

    Bins etc can be moved around on a network share if you take care and do it manually.

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  • Thu, Apr 11 2013 3:39 PM In reply to

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    Re: Low cost shared setup

    I'm reading while synchronizing the three hard drives (the editing workstation, the assistant workstation, a safety backup) belonging to the feature I'm editing, some 10k files, roughly 1.2 TB of data, and guys I'm not enjoying myself, so while I do agree that for small projects sharing cloned drives across a couple of systems is a sensible choice and the most affordable one I wouldn't recommend it for large projects. I took a test drive with indiestor but I did not dare to use it for this project as I was already in the middle of the run when I first heard of it, but as I'm writing I'm not keen that I didn't have the guts! The setup was fairly easy on an old dual core system, dual 1 gigabit NIC, there's no need for a powerful last generation CPU while fast storage and ethernet (perhaps fiber) are a must, altough a better system wouldn't hurt at all, with 1000-1500 euro (storage not included) indiestor should be more than happy; Ubuntu is easy to install, indiestor is easy as well,  while configuring and using it is well documented, but I have to admit that I'm a long time linux user, the good news being that a GUI is in the pipeline, making things easier for the less technical people. To be fully honest I did not experiment very much with the system as I have had no time to spare, so I can't speak regarding editing performance, playback of DNxHD 36 was fine, don't know what is like real editing, but for the next fairly large project I will certainly use it, fingers crossed (do guinea pigs have fingers?); of course an Avid solution would be smooth, but if money is tight indiestor seems to me a valid alternative, at least for a small shop, and the investment is way lower even than Editshare, so as the original question was about a low cost shared setup I mentioned it, of course with my own limited experience with it I can't say that I'm 100% sure that it's the perfect solution: take Your own risk, but feedback from users seems to be more than encouraging; I hope that I'll need shared storage anytime soon, it would mean being on a big job, and will report on the indiestor outcome, if You don't hear from me it'll mean that the crisis is hitting harder.

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  • Fri, Apr 12 2013 1:45 PM In reply to

    Re: Low cost shared setup

    There's the VidSharX solution. It's 200 bucks and even tho' I don't personally use that, there are people here in this forum that told me it works pretty well.

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  • Sun, Apr 14 2013 6:36 PM In reply to

    Re: Low cost shared setup

    Have a look at indiestor (freeware) and quantastor. I've also heard good things about dynamic drive pool ssd systems but never tested.

    Once in a while used unity's show up on ebay. A fiber connected unity 5 is still a great system if you ask me.

    EDIT: forgot to mention mxfserver which is also being used by more people as an alternative to unity/isis.

     

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  • Tue, Apr 23 2013 6:21 PM In reply to

    • DLpres
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    Re: Low cost shared setup

    +1 for you to check out VidSharx, and there's another new player promising Unity-like bin sharing with all the perks, on XSAN. The pricing though is $1,500/seat.

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