Hello Avid users!  My name is Frank Marsilio and I work for SmartSound Software.  Our Sonicfire Pro 5 software comes bundled with Media Composer and allows you easily create customized, royalty-free soundtracks for your projects.  I will be monitoring these forums for SmartSound, so if you have any questions or comments please post them here. 

Thanks, and happy editing!

Hi Frank,

Let me be the first to ask, when will SFP have a MC plugin? Thanks

Frank Marsilio:

Hello Avid users!  My name is Frank Marsilio and I work for SmartSound Software.  Our Sonicfire Pro 5 software comes bundled with Media Composer and allows you easily create customized, royalty-free soundtracks for your projects.  I will be monitoring these forums for SmartSound, so if you have any questions or comments please post them here. 

Thanks, and happy editing!

 

Hello Frank,

Welcome to the Avid Community.
As a regular user of SmartSound products I am happy to see this possibility for direct contact with you.

The only thing I miss about SonicFirePro since coming to MC from Liquid, is the integration between the 2 applications. Using the suggested workflow with Avid Metasync is far to complex for my simple brain.
However I have developed a simpler workflow that suits my needs.

Welcome

Regards,
Douglas

Hi Sam,

Great first question! Although I'm not sure I have a great first answer.  Integrating the SmartSound sound engine as a plug-in usually requires development from both ourselves and from the developers of the host application, to allow them to maintain a look and workflow that is consistent with the other aspects of the interface. Unfortunately I do not have any information on whether or not an integrated plug-in will be developed for Media Composer. 

However, Sonicfire Pro 5, although a standalone application, has a handy feature called "Smart Recall" that helps close the gap a little.  With Smart Recall enabled (as it is by default), any audio file that you create with Sonicfire Pro 5 will have the project data embedded into it.  This means that if you need to make any changes to the audio file, you can actually open the audio file itself as a project in Sonicfire Pro and it will recreate all of the settings that were used to create that file.  You can then make your new edits and export a new audio file, which will in turn have the new project data embedded into it.  While far from an integration, it does help when you need to make changes. 

I hope this somewhat answers your question, and if a plug-in is announced I will be sure to update this forum accordingly. 

Thanks Sam!

Frank Marsilio:

if a plug-in is announced I will be sure to update this forum accordingly. 

Happy New Year, Frank

Do you have any fresh information about better integration between MC and SmartSound?

I know that there is interest in such a plug-in, especially from the large group of ex-Liquid users who migrated to MC over the past few years.

Regards,
Douglas

Hi Frank,

As Douglas mentioned, the integration of SS with the Liquid product was quite a time saver. Your organization was quite supportive of the Liquid immersions, last one held 2007 in Charlotte NC.

Some of the emailed sales specials were quite compelling.

Hi Frank!

I use SmartSound alot all the way back from Liquid times... Most of my scores is from my SmartSound library.

My usual workflow is to export QT ref from MC and import into SS.

A big timesaver would be a closer integration between SS and MC. The more we can do directly from MC timeline without leaving MC the faster we can finish projects.

But all in all, a very good software

It would be good if the full SonicFire could be opened (easily) and completely from within MC rather like AvidFX opens from within MC.  The 'Quicktracks' method used in Liquid and so on I found OK-ish, but its SFPro that really has the meat.

In MC5 I think I found a way to virtually do that - open SFPro with a selected chunk of track while still in MC, but I have either forgotten how I did it, or I am just dreaming and wishful thinking.  Probably the latter...

Hello you all,
I speak almost no English much, I try to follow this forum with translations on google.
thank you in advance for your understanding.
I speak only French and Portuguese.
'm Really Interesting, to finalize the next without much of its directect puzzles and do SFPro directly from MC will be really Geant foot.
Thank you.
someone found a solution?

demak:

do SFPro directly from MC

demak:

someone found a solution?

Sorry, no.  Sonicfire Pro does not work directly from inside MC.

... but it is very simple to send a QT Reference file of a movie (or specific scenes) to SonicFire and to score it entirely within SonicFire - with the video playable etc - I'm doing just that right now.  And, I might add, using Royalty Free music files* that are not necessarily SmartSounds ...  SonicFire is great for assembling and adjusting any audio tracks as well as its own SmartSounds..

*Check out (Google) Kevin Macleod's stuff - it is free if you credit the tracks you use, though a donation would be cool!

Mike

That was a very useful lead to Kevin's music. However I assume that you can only download his audio files for direct inclusion in to the video and that these files cannot be used as music sources for SonicFire Pro.

John

Two things. First SonicFire Pro is able to import audio files which can then be used when scoring along with SmartSound music.  However, the usage in previous versions of SFPro is no longer in the current version it seems: one used to be able to create the same sort of 'blocks' in an imported audio file, resembling the blocks that SmartSound uses to construct music files to length. That is no longer possible in V5 (why the heck did I upgrade!), and the use of imported audio files is far from intuitive.  When imported the file appears as one block in the blocking area, and as a file name:  the way SFPro treats the imported file depends on how one drags it to the timeline - from the file name or as a block.  It is confusing and frustrating: one of them SF treats as if it were a smartsound, and trims it to the required length by slicing something out odf the middle and blending the join, the other method does different things.  You have to experiment with the two methods to get what you want.  In the previous versions, you could select the 'cut point' in the middle, and the 'degree of blending' - the length of the fade to/from, but that no longer seems possible.

Second thing:  Kevin says that his music - or most of it - can be tailored to a specific length by using the online version of SF on the SonicFire website.  I'm not sure if that then means you have to pay for its usage, as I haven't tried it.

While on SFPro V5, I have found that if I go to the Help files, they don't work properly - the Index tab shows nothing, and if I type something into 'Search' - and search - nothing happens.  I may have a bad installation, but I didn't have time to uninstall and re-install it again.  If I did uninstall, IK think I'd go back to an earlier version if I could - though that will probably mean I wouldn't then be able to use the Mood music.  Catch 22.