Hi,Ok, first, I'm not even sure what I've done, so the following is the best explanation I can give. I have put together a 'movie' form JPEG stills, and part of this has been using sequences from other projects. One such sequence is a timelapse created in Avid (creating media from sequentially numbered JPEGS). In the present project, I did a video mixdown, in order to review my edit (lots of choppy-changes that I didn't wish to render so as to save disk space). Having reviewed my mixdown, noting on paper the changes I wish to make, I then deleted the mixdown in the new project's Sequence bin, also deleting the associated file in the drive in question. Note, I am sure, though cannot say for certain, that I did not delete associated media. Now going back to original cut of my second project, I note that the media 'connected' the earlier project is offline. Closing down and opening the earlier project it seems that everything there is now offline, including music tracks (it's been a few months since I last went there). So, in the earlier project, I decided to once again import & create a timelapse film from the original set of JPEGs, and this new creation sits alongside the now seemingly defunct 'media from sequential JPEGs' first done - both with the same file name, in this case "slo_0001.jpg". So, in this bin there are two files called the same, only one works and one doesn't. As the timeline's references in the earlier project point to the first "slo_0001.jpg", how do I now point this to the second "slo_0001.jpg", which in all practicality is exactly the same file? Then, how do I point my later project's reference (in this case, now titled as a related sub-clip), back to the correct earlier project, which in my theory would then mean that everything would be thoroughly relinked? For the record, the general relink method here has not worked, hence my (il)llogical taking-the-long-way-round. I hope all this makes sense. Thanks,DC
In short, in a sequence bin can I recreate the same, and 'point' any references (ie., cuts in the timeline) to this recreation?
Supermandan1:I decided to once again import & create a timelapse film from the original set of JPEGs, and this new creation sits alongside the now seemingly defunct 'media from sequential JPEGs' first done... how do I now point this to the second "slo_0001.jpg", which in all practicality is exactly the same file?
If it's "exactly the same file" as far as duration, timecode and source name -- you may be able to relink by highlighting it in one bin, highlighting your sequence in another. Selecting your sequence and choosing relink, and using "relink to selected clips in all open bins."
Give it a go. Your convoluted process (which I did not follow completely,) may have shot you in the foot.
Ok, thank you. I'm 2 days away from my back-ups, will take a look then. Meanwhile, two quickies: i) Should things not work out, then I can always rebuild this portion of the edit. Therefore, the edited clips in the timeline presently showing "Media Offline", how can I 'get into these', so to speak, to see exactly where each cut's in- and out-points are? (I can then marry up this info with the recreated media, which, as mentioned above.)
ii) Just so I know exactly what's what, when I press Delete on a Video Mixdown, and a panel comes up confirming that I wish to delete Master Clip plus Associated Media Files, what exactly do these mean? Specifically, is the Associated Media File what was created when first performing the Video Mixdown, or is this the actual source material?
DC
In short, can I look at an edited clip on the timeline, whether the media is online or offline, and determine where its in- and out-points are in relation to the source material?
Maybe I'm missing something, and it's likely as I haven't taken time to fully grasp the process you're using - but have you tried a Batch Import on the original clips in the bin that now have offline media?
Also - when you delete a mixdown and its media, you are indeed deleting ONLY the mixdown. It is wholly separate from ANY other media. The master clip and associated media are those of the mixdown, and ONLY the mixdown.
Hi,
Supermandan1: In the present project, I did a video mixdown, in order to review my edit (lots of choppy-changes that I didn't wish to render so as to save disk space).
Unless you're really up against the limit of your hard drive, I wouldn't worry too much about renders taking up space. They're usually not that big in the grand scheme of things.
Supermandan1:Having reviewed my mixdown, noting on paper the changes I wish to make, I then deleted the mixdown in the new project's Sequence bin, also deleting the associated file in the drive in question. Note, I am sure, though cannot say for certain, that I did not delete associated media.
When deleting the mixdown, you'd have been asked if you wanted to delete the master clip, the associated media file, or both. The master clip is small - it's just the metadata, not the actual audio and video - so deleting only that would defeat your whole plan of saving drive space. If you want to save drive space, you have to delete the associated media file, which is the actual audio and video (or just video in the case of a video mixdown).
Supermandan1:Now going back to original cut of my second project, I note that the media 'connected' the earlier project is offline. Closing down and opening the earlier project it seems that everything there is now offline, including music tracks (it's been a few months since I last went there).
It's pretty rare for stuff to go offline out of the blue. My guess is one of two things happened: 1) your media databases got corrupt, so the system couldn't find the media, or 2) you accidentally deleted the media when you were deleting your mixdown.
The way to see if it was a database problem is to exit Media Composer. Then, in each folder inside the Avid MediaFiles folder on your media drive find the two database files named named msmFMID.pmr and msmMMOB.mdb. Delete them. When you restart the system will rebuild them and hopefully this will fix your problem.
If after deleting the database files the clips are still offline, then they're most likely really offline and it's not a database problem.
Supermandan1:So, in the earlier project, I decided to once again import & create a timelapse film from the original set of JPEGs, and this new creation sits alongside the now seemingly defunct 'media from sequential JPEGs' first done - both with the same file name, in this case "slo_0001.jpg". So, in this bin there are two files called the same, only one works and one doesn't. As the timeline's references in the earlier project point to the first "slo_0001.jpg", how do I now point this to the second "slo_0001.jpg", which in all practicality is exactly the same file?
Rather than reimporting the JPEGs again, what you should have done is selected the offline clips and then batch imported them. The batch import would have asked you where the original files were, and once you pointed the system to the original files, they would have reimported and relinked to your sequences and it all would've been back like it was.
Supermandan1:Then, how do I point my later project's reference (in this case, now titled as a related sub-clip), back to the correct earlier project, which in my theory would then mean that everything would be thoroughly relinked?
Same answer. Once you batch import a clip, it relinks everywhere it's used, so your clips in the second project would've relinked just like they would have in the original project.
Supermandan1:In short, can I look at an edited clip on the timeline, whether the media is online or offline, and determine where its in- and out-points are in relation to the source material?
If you ALT+match frame a clip in the sequence, it will load the master clip into the source monitor with whatever in/out marks are currently set. If you haven't changed them, they'll be the same as they were.
If you have changed them, you could match frame the first frame of the clip in the sequence, and that will load the master clip in the source monitor with an in point set at the match frame. You could then figure out the out using the I/O display, or if you want to edit the same clip in the same spot, just use an in and out in the sequence and the matched in point in the source.
Hope that helps.
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Wow, that's a lot for me to digest. Somehow, I must have done a 'referencing file' delete on my drive. Ultimately, I know I can rebuild, though this lil' lot will keep me occupied for a while. Many thanks, DC
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