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  • Wed, May 19 2010 5:58 PM

    • starsitani
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    Apple Mac Workstation for Avid MC 5

    Hi everybody.

    I am going to order a new Mac Pro to work with MC5 + Mojo (analog).

    It will replace a HP XW8400.

    I would like advice/comments on the choice (from PC to Mac) I am making and on the configuration of the Mac.

    1) A recent document from Avid about "Qualified Apple Mac Workstations for Avid Media Composer v5.0" indicates only the 8-Core version of the Mac Pro (2.66 GHz or 2.93 GHz). Those are a bit too expensive for me and I would like to go for the Quad-Core 2.93 GHz.
    Do you know of any problem/limitation with that processor?

    2) My other doubt is about the graphic card + display.

    First option: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB + 1x Apple Cinema HD Display 30''

    Second option: 2x NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB + 2x Apple LED Cinema Display 24''

    I am used to two monitors so would go for the second option, but the 30'' display is very attractive. Also, the Avid document mentions only ONE graphic card and does never say anything about the use of two cards (needed for two 24'' displays).

    Any comments about compatibility issues of one versus two cards and about one big display versus two medium sized ones? Also any comments about new generation displays (24'') versus old one (30'')?

    Thanks a lot for any help!

    starsitani

    MacBook Pro 17'' (2010), 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7, 4 GB, 500 GB 7200 rpm, Avid Media Composer 5.5, Mac OS X 10.6.8 [view my complete system specs]
  • Wed, May 19 2010 7:04 PM In reply to

    Re: Apple Mac Workstation for Avid MC 5

    So your intention is to skimp out on the processors in favor of Apple's overpriced dislpays?

    My advice: Buy the most COMPUTER you can afford and save some $ by using another vendor's display.  This way you do not need to buy another display card, you can just get the adapter to support it.

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  • Wed, May 19 2010 8:12 PM In reply to

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    Re: Apple Mac Workstation for Avid MC 5

    Thanks FunkyDragon,

    That is good advice. Can you advice a good display brand/model that you would choose for the Mac Pro running MC 5?

    Regards,

    starsitani

    MacBook Pro 17'' (2010), 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7, 4 GB, 500 GB 7200 rpm, Avid Media Composer 5.5, Mac OS X 10.6.8 [view my complete system specs]
  • Wed, May 19 2010 8:29 PM In reply to

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    Re: Apple Mac Workstation for Avid MC 5

    I would get the base machine and upgrade the cpu to a 2.93ghz quad, bump the ram from 3gb to 6gb and walk away as fast as you can from the apple store with a bit of money left...

    Then if you want a 30" screen look for refurbed (or not) Dell 3007WFP-HC or non HC, HP LP3065, or Samsung 305t. all should be about $800+ less than an apple 30" and offer the same performance (in the case of the Dell and HP the same exact panel), or grab 2 x Dell Refurbished UltraSharp 2407WFP - $399/ea as opposed to $800 for a single apple 24".

    ps. a single gt 120 has a dvi and mini display port so you can run 2 monitors with one card.

    pps. keep your eye on the apple refurb store for Mac Pros as they will offer even more savings with NO downside.

    in the end a 'qualified' system is a luxury - cerrtainly not a necessity unless your support contract requires it. I have been running various forms of avid exclusively on non-qualified equipment for years and have saved thosands of $$$$ as a result.

    as an example, the unibody mbp in my signature below was bought on craigslist for $150 because the lcd had liquid damage and has a big stain in it as a result, but not an issue as it is a dedicated avid workstation and is hooked up to a Samsung 305t (bought refurbed from newegg.com for $699). i know that is an extreme case of frugality but it just goes to show...

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  • Wed, May 19 2010 9:35 PM In reply to

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    Re: Apple Mac Workstation for Avid MC 5

    Thanks lesterp,

    I really appreciate your tips and I will save them for future reference.

    I should clarify that I am purchasing this Mac for a university lab where I work. So I don't care so much about saving money looking for refurbished products, especially because it would be difficult to purchase those with the bureaucracy of the university purchase system. I just need to be within the budget.

    So I understand you would go for the Quad-core Nehalem 2.93 GHz processor. I agree!

    I will see if any of the displays you suggested can be found new on the UK market and will consider it. Do you think that 2no displays like the Dell, HP or Samsung 30'' could run on one NVIDIA graphic card? Or I would need 2? If I need 2 cards, can you advice if you know of any problems with Avid when using 2 graphic cards?

    Thanks a lot!

    MacBook Pro 17'' (2010), 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7, 4 GB, 500 GB 7200 rpm, Avid Media Composer 5.5, Mac OS X 10.6.8 [view my complete system specs]
  • Wed, May 19 2010 9:39 PM In reply to

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    Re: Apple Mac Workstation for Avid MC 5

    In my 3.2Ghz Mac Pro I have the GeForce 8800 GT 512mb which is a single card with 2 video outputs... maybe I am mistaking the difference between the description of one card - one output and two cards - two outpus.

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  • Wed, May 19 2010 10:05 PM In reply to

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    Re: Apple Mac Workstation for Avid MC 5

    starsitani:

     

    Thanks lesterp,

    I really appreciate your tips and I will save them for future reference.

    I should clarify that I am purchasing this Mac for a university lab where I work. So I don't care so much about saving money looking for refurbished products, especially because it would be difficult to purchase those with the bureaucracy of the university purchase system. I just need to be within the budget.

    So I understand you would go for the Quad-core Nehalem 2.93 GHz processor. I agree!

    I will see if any of the displays you suggested can be found new on the UK market and will consider it. Do you think that 2no displays like the Dell, HP or Samsung 30'' could run on one NVIDIA graphic card? Or I would need 2? If I need 2 cards, can you advice if you know of any problems with Avid when using 2 graphic cards?

     

    Ahh money is no object - I envy you, there is nothing funner (I know funner isn't a real word especially in the UK) than spending other people's money.

    I am not sure that a gt 120 can drive 2 x 30" displays at 2560x1600 each but I may be wrong.

     

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  • Wed, May 19 2010 10:05 PM In reply to

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    Re: Apple Mac Workstation for Avid MC 5

    In the Apple Store, when you add a display to the Mac Pro for purchase, you have the following:

    Note: Connecting two 24-inch Apple LED Cinema Displays requires an additional NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 graphics card. Connecting two 30-inch Apple Cinema HD Displays requires a Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Video Adapter.

    I understand that I would need 2no video cards to connect 2no 24'' displays, while I could potentially connect 2no 30'' displays on one card (using one adapter). Considering that I can afford only 1x 30'' display or 2x 24'' displays, you have the 2 options that I described in my first post.

    Hope that clarifies.

    Thanks.

    MacBook Pro 17'' (2010), 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7, 4 GB, 500 GB 7200 rpm, Avid Media Composer 5.5, Mac OS X 10.6.8 [view my complete system specs]
  • Wed, May 19 2010 10:37 PM In reply to

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    Re: Apple Mac Workstation for Avid MC 5

    Just realized that the apple 24" displays only have a single mini display port so if you go with 2 of them then yes you need 1 card per display. if you buy non apple 24" monitors with dvi connectors then you only need 1 gt 120. Same with a single 30".

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  • Wed, May 19 2010 10:45 PM In reply to

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    Re: Apple Mac Workstation for Avid MC 5

    Yes. That is clear now. Thanks.

    MacBook Pro 17'' (2010), 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7, 4 GB, 500 GB 7200 rpm, Avid Media Composer 5.5, Mac OS X 10.6.8 [view my complete system specs]
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