Looking for some real world feedback on the Mojo DX. I am running a Mac pro 2008. 10.5.6

I am planning to upgrade to MC 3.0 to 3.5 and add the Mojo. I have read that the Mojo does not accelerate real time performance?? True? (otherwise it seems it's nothing more than an expensive box for external monitoring.)

There's almost no real world feedback on Mojo DX on this forums or elsewhere, it can only mean that very few people own one.

I'd like to know if the HDMI output is SD and HD like the SDI. My JVC HD monitor does'nt have SDI but has a DVI (HDMI compliant) input. I still have some SD jobs and I need to make sure I will be able to monitor those.

Anyways buying Mojo DX at 5K (promotional price witch looks more and more like "we've lower the price but refuse to admit it...") would have been a no brainer if Avid gaved us component in&out's, I would understand the lack of it if the price were a lot cheaper or the box a lot smaller, but c'mon ! Our Beta SP deck doens't have SDI so when I need to ingest some archive footage that comes mostly on Beta SP I need a converter... 

 

so I guess we're beating the same old horse in regards to viewing HD on an external monitor.

If no one is buying it- How are the lower end guys (event videos, etc.) cutting their material? Are you guys just going with what you see in the composer window?

Avid is making it so difficult for me to switch back from FCP.

as far as I understand it, if you have an 8 core, neither the Nitris DX nor the Mojo DX do any crunching.  (If someone knows otherwise, please speak up).  So with an 8 core, the Mojo just provides input and output.  Don't know if the HDMI provides SD output, but I would think the specs would tell you.

jdw:

Don't know if the HDMI provides SD output, but I would think the specs would tell you.

Well the specs are confusing, here's what it says on the official page on avid.com:

SD and HD SDI I/O (combined connector)

HDMI output

Here's what it says on the videoguys page (that's where I plan to buy it): "New I/O hardware for SD and HD, with SD/HD SDI I/O and HDMI monitoring" Now avid bobs specs have a history of being nothing but clear and even if it seems obvious I would like to be shure the HDMI output is able to send an SD signal. I would also like to know which component to SDI converter is to buy these days.  Maybe someone actually owns a Mojo DX and will be able to answer at least my first question? Thanks.

 

My concern would be the lack of hardware codecs, which are present in the Nitris DX version.  Does the Avid site explain this anywhere?  Personally, for me, the differece in cost would be worth it, plus you get more physical I/O capability.  Then again, I also think the Nitris DX should be about 1/2 the cost, but that's a whole different thread.

Randall L Rike:

My concern would be the lack of hardware codecs, which are present in the Nitris DX version.  Does the Avid site explain this anywhere? 

Yes it's clearly stated that Mojo DX doesn't have dnxhd codec built in but then an 8 core macpro is able to do the encoding/decoding part on it's own, even for capturing directly to dnxhd formats.

Nitris DX is twice the price but of course it should be 5k instead of 10K and Mojo DX 2K instead of 5K, Avid would then be just 30% to 40% more expensive than the competion instead of around a 100% more expensive. That would make sense and be really competitive regarding the reliability of their products.

"... Yes it's clearly stated that Mojo DX doesn't have dnxhd codec built in ..."

Where exactly does it say this?  URL please?

Here it kind of says so:

http://www.avid.com/products/1347.htm 

as opposed to :

http://www.avid.com/products/1364.htm

But agreed, like I said in the previous post  "avid bobs specs have a history of being nothing but clear".

 

 

Niether of those links really explains it, at least in a way custmers would get it without additional explanation.  If you talk to Avid Application Specialists at one of their evnts, they will clearly tell you about the difference.  The website and other literature does not.  Without the hardware codecs, it's just I/O.  If it's just I/O, it's way too expensive.  I originally bought my Analog Mojo because it provided more RT playback.  But now it's mostly an I/O box ever since the software started providing so much more RT playback.  The "in sync" monitoring is nice, but at what cost?

You're right I have the same experience with analog mojo, the DV hardware codec use to help a lot, especially for real time while editing and doing digital cut's without full rendering. Today DV and uncompressed SD are easely encoded by CPU and software so the analog mojo is just a real SD output in sync.

I'm happy with how my current 8 cores CPU handles both SD and HD without hardware acceleration so what I need is just a simple I/O box. And yes your're right again it's way to expensive for just I/O. 

Anyways the Nitris DX DNxHD hardware chip wouldn't be of much help to me as I work mostly with P2 and XDCAM material in their native codecs and also SD in 1:1 and DV codec.

I guess the main thing Nitris DX has to offer to me is I/O with great connectivity but can't afford it right know.

So if you guys are not using a mojo DX- since it's way too expensive - do you just monitor with the fullscreen playback function?

Personally, I don't do HD.  Most everything is for my team in Zambia, so PAL DV, or off my XL1 at NTSC DV.  But, if I did do HD, I would start with FSP.  If there was revenue involved, I'd pony up for the Nitris DX (gasp).

Randall L Rike:

My concern would be the lack of hardware codecs, which are present in the Nitris DX version. 

 

Hey Randal, what extra hardware codecs does the Nitris DX hardware provide?

"... what extra hardware codecs does the Nitris DX hardware provide ..."

DNxHD ... Avid's own ....