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  • Wed, Apr 22 2009 8:58 PM

    • feglo
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    My Avid Beast!

    I have a custom built PC from Go Fish Media

    Here are my specs

    GoFishMedia VE Studio Editing System
    Intel Quad Core Q9650 - 3.00GHz - 12mb Cache 1333 MHz FSB
    Intel® Extreme Mother Board DP45SG
    8GB 1333 mhz DDR3 Crucial Memory
    Intel 10/100/1000 Mbps Network Adapter
    Nvidia Quadro FX1700 - 512MB DDR2 Memory
    Intel High Definition Audio / 8 Channel Audio Sub System
    (2) Seagate 160GB SATA HDD 7200rpm (Raid 0 Data Back Up) Operating System
    (2) Seagate 750GB SATA HDD 7200rpm (Raid 0 Data Back Up) Working Drive

    (1) Entry Level: 2 x 1TB (Raid 1 Configuration)

    (1) Lite On 20X DVDRW 52X CDRW Drive
    (12) Standard USB Ports
    (2) Firewire Ports
    22 in 1 Card Reader
    550w PowerSupply
    Microsoft Keyboard & Optical Mouse
    AVG 8.0 Antivirus
    Adobe Reader 9.0
    Custom Recovery CD (Includes Windows OS, Updates, Drivers and SSP7 Unlocked)
    Windows Vista 64 Bit Business Operating System
    3 year limited parts and labor warranty
    Free shipping to lower 48 States included

    Ok so here is my review after a little over a month with this system....

    This system is simply awesome, I am running the dual monitor set up with 2 22" monitors and a 2.1 logictech sound system.

    I use this machine primarily for video and audio editing, but I also work on our church Web site with it.

    No issues at all.

    The software I use is:

    Avid Media Composer V. 3.5
    Adobe CS3 Master Collection (frequently use simultaneously Adobe Premiere, Adobe After Effects, Adobe Audition, Adobe Sound Booth)
    Mozilla Thunderbird
    Mozilla Firefox
    Windows Live messenger
    Windows Media Player
    Internet Explorer
    Sonic DVD by Avid

    Most of the programs listed above I use at the same time, I have been trying to bog it down...just once....hasn't happened yet...it will not slow down, it will not hang up, and it boots up super fast because it doesn't have all the other junk on it that other computers do.

    I run a JVC Mini-DV deck into it BR-dv3000u through 1 of the firewire ports, runs seamlessly...no hiccups or anything like that.

    The Video card, Ram, and Processor work very well together providing me with excellent Audio and Video quality while editing and a perfect export quality to DVD through Audition and in real time export through my Deck to a DVD recorder.

    I cannot express how fast the start up is.

    Media Composer 3.5 Vista Business 64Bit Intel Dual Quad Core Q9650 3GHz Intel® Extreme Mother Board DP45SG 8GB Crucial Memory Nvidia Quadro FX1700... [view my complete system specs]
  • Thu, Apr 23 2009 11:07 AM In reply to

    Re: My Avid Beast!

    Since you use CS3 and MC, I'd love to read a riff on comparing the two systems and what you think MC's advantages are and what Adobe's are.

    I'm assuming something along the lines of MC is much better for cutting, Premiere has better integration with After Effects, but I'd love to hear your thoughts.

     

    Oh, P.S. AWESOME computer.

    P4 3.0. 4 Gig RAM, CAS 2.0. 3Gig patch. Intel 865PERL mobo. Two WD 7,200 IDE drives. SIIG SATA II-150 PCI RAID card w/ 2 WD Raptor 10,000 SATA drives as... [view my complete system specs]
  • Thu, Apr 23 2009 5:17 PM In reply to

    • feglo
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    Re: My Avid Beast!

    Thanks for the props on my machine.

     

    I am an Avid guy, I love editing on Avid, it is what I know best, shortcuts and all.

    One thing I do hate about avid is the difficult in exporting high quality to DVD and importing.

     

    Adobe has such ease, any project I do in Premiere I easily can then export it straight into Encore and Boom 5 minutes later DVD is done.

     

    Any serious project I will edit it on Avid, all my documentaries, promos, music videos I do in Avid, smaller stuff and conversions I do with Adobe.

    After effects integration is a no brainer when it comes to using the Adobe Suite hands down it is seamless and easy to use.

     

    Anyone with any input on a good way to import a DVD into Avid Media Composer please let me know it is something that would make my life a lot easier.

    Media Composer 3.5 Vista Business 64Bit Intel Dual Quad Core Q9650 3GHz Intel® Extreme Mother Board DP45SG 8GB Crucial Memory Nvidia Quadro FX1700... [view my complete system specs]
  • Thu, Apr 23 2009 5:21 PM In reply to

    • camoscato
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    Re: My Avid Beast!

    Hiya,

    feglo:
    Anyone with any input on a good way to import a DVD into Avid Media Composer please let me know it is something that would make my life a lot easier.

    Aside from just hooking up a DVD player and capturing, my favorite method of DVD conversion is to use Cinematize to convert the DVD video to Quicktime, which you can then import into Media Composer.

    good luck,
    Carl

    MC 3.5.4, HP dv9605ea, Vista Home Premium, AMD Athlon 1.8 GHz, 4 GB RAM, nVidia GeForce 7150M, Conexant HD Audio, G-tech 500GB G-drive [view my complete system specs]

    There is no such thing as a video emergency.  My Demo Website

  • Thu, Apr 23 2009 5:24 PM In reply to

    Re: My Avid Beast!

    For importing a DVD you have two basic options.

    1) capture it directly in as a Live Source

    2) rip it and convert the file to QT.  I've used MPEG Streamclip with good results

    feglo:
    any project I do in Premiere I easily can then export it straight into Encore and Boom 5 minutes later DVD is done.

    you can Export straight into Encore (or any other app) from Avid.  Just set up your Send To functions properly, but my bigger question is how are you controlling the quality of the Encoded file?  If you're not going to a 3rd party encoder?

     

    MacPro dual 2.66GHz 6GB RAM nVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT Storage: 2TB G-Speed eS with controller card 3x1TB Hitachi SATA-II internals, various external FW/USB... [view my complete system specs]

    Kenton VanNatten | Avid Editor (for hire)

    "I am not obsessed... I'm detail-oriented"

  • Thu, Apr 23 2009 5:25 PM In reply to

    • feglo
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    Re: My Avid Beast!

    has the quality that is imported into avid?

     

    Do you lose any quality in the Audi or Video?

     

    thanks.

    Media Composer 3.5 Vista Business 64Bit Intel Dual Quad Core Q9650 3GHz Intel® Extreme Mother Board DP45SG 8GB Crucial Memory Nvidia Quadro FX1700... [view my complete system specs]
  • Thu, Apr 23 2009 5:34 PM In reply to

    • camoscato
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    Re: My Avid Beast!

    Hi,

    feglo:
    has the quality that is imported into avid?

    I assume that first word is supposed to be "how's", and the answer is "about as good as you can get from a DVD, considering that DVD video is pretty heavily compressed to begin with, and you're compressing it again to get it to Quicktime, and then importing it into Media Composer."

    feglo:
    Do you lose any quality in the Audi or Video?

    Yes, as you would with any conversion/import method, but the quality of the resulting video is pretty good, all things considered.

    good luck,
    Carl

    p.s. If you really meant "Audi" in the second question, then my answer is "I drive a BMW, so the quality of an Audi would be lower." :)

    MC 3.5.4, HP dv9605ea, Vista Home Premium, AMD Athlon 1.8 GHz, 4 GB RAM, nVidia GeForce 7150M, Conexant HD Audio, G-tech 500GB G-drive [view my complete system specs]

    There is no such thing as a video emergency.  My Demo Website

  • Thu, Apr 23 2009 5:42 PM In reply to

    • feglo
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    Re: My Avid Beast!

    wow...my wires really got crossed on that last post, sorry about that.

     

    I do not want to lose any quality, that is the big issue, what is the best way to capture it live, do I need mojo for that, because i have had issues capturing with avid through DVD.

     

    Thanks for your time.

    Media Composer 3.5 Vista Business 64Bit Intel Dual Quad Core Q9650 3GHz Intel® Extreme Mother Board DP45SG 8GB Crucial Memory Nvidia Quadro FX1700... [view my complete system specs]
  • Thu, Apr 23 2009 5:45 PM In reply to

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    Re: My Avid Beast!

    You are going to have to dumb down the part about controlling the quality of the encoded file....

     

    I have found some ease in exporting my Avid Time line and then importing it into Premiere then exporting that into Encore...not sure if there is an easier way or not, but there was minimal to no quality loss.

    Media Composer 3.5 Vista Business 64Bit Intel Dual Quad Core Q9650 3GHz Intel® Extreme Mother Board DP45SG 8GB Crucial Memory Nvidia Quadro FX1700... [view my complete system specs]
  • Thu, Apr 23 2009 9:23 PM In reply to

    Re: My Avid Beast!

    Run, don't walk, and get TMPGEnc Xpress 4.0. It's about $100 and is worth every penny, especially with an application like Avid. Because it can ingest and convert anything into just about anything.

    I've imported DVD's and transcoded them directly into DNxHD or 1:1 all in one step inside Xpress 4.0. Another cool DVD feature is you can set in and out marks, so you don't have to ingest the entire DVD or chapter, only what you think you might need.

    But the program does so much more. It's a must have, is rock solid and will make your life a lot easier.

    HTH ;).

    P4 3.0. 4 Gig RAM, CAS 2.0. 3Gig patch. Intel 865PERL mobo. Two WD 7,200 IDE drives. SIIG SATA II-150 PCI RAID card w/ 2 WD Raptor 10,000 SATA drives as... [view my complete system specs]
  • Thu, Apr 23 2009 9:49 PM In reply to

    Re: My Avid Beast!

    feglo:
    You are going to have to dumb down the part about controlling the quality of the encoded file....

    Puzzles me why you would in one breath be talking about being worried about losing quality when importing from a DVD source, but yet seem so cavalier in your regard towards creating your own discs.

     

    feglo:
    I have found some ease in exporting my Avid Time line and then importing it into Premiere then exporting that into Encore...not sure if there is an easier way or not, but there was minimal to no quality loss.

    Export from Avid as QTref = no quality loss

    Import into Premiere = compression

    Export from Premiere = compression

    So, you have managed to apply two levels of compression to an otherwise uncompressed export before you even got it to your DVD app.

    A capable 3rd party encoder comes bundled with MC - why not use it?  

    Export from Avid as QTref

    Encode to DVD compliant MPEG-2 using 3rd Party encoder

    Use DVD app to author the disc.  

     

    MacPro dual 2.66GHz 6GB RAM nVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT Storage: 2TB G-Speed eS with controller card 3x1TB Hitachi SATA-II internals, various external FW/USB... [view my complete system specs]

    Kenton VanNatten | Avid Editor (for hire)

    "I am not obsessed... I'm detail-oriented"

  • Thu, Apr 23 2009 10:00 PM In reply to

    • feglo
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    Re: My Avid Beast!

    Thanks for your thoughts,

     

    The only reason I mentioned the exporting and importing and converting to Encore is because it was something I tried and didn't lose quality.

     

    I used Sonic DVD by Avid and the quality was less than that of my import-export method.

     

    Either way I make two copies right now...1 in real time and one through Encore.

     

    I am open to other suggestions, I just know I was not happy with the quality that Sonic was giving me.

     

    All help is welcomed.

    Media Composer 3.5 Vista Business 64Bit Intel Dual Quad Core Q9650 3GHz Intel® Extreme Mother Board DP45SG 8GB Crucial Memory Nvidia Quadro FX1700... [view my complete system specs]
  • Thu, Apr 23 2009 10:05 PM In reply to

    • feglo
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    Re: My Avid Beast!

    so that software works with you for Avid?

     

    no quality loss?

    Media Composer 3.5 Vista Business 64Bit Intel Dual Quad Core Q9650 3GHz Intel® Extreme Mother Board DP45SG 8GB Crucial Memory Nvidia Quadro FX1700... [view my complete system specs]
  • Thu, Apr 23 2009 10:27 PM In reply to

    • camoscato
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    Re: My Avid Beast!

    Hi,

    feglo:
    so that software works with you for Avid?  no quality loss?

    You might want to start quoting whoever you're addressing your questions to.  There are at least three people suggesting programs to you, and I don't know which one of us you're trying to get more information from.

    good luck,
    Carl

    MC 3.5.4, HP dv9605ea, Vista Home Premium, AMD Athlon 1.8 GHz, 4 GB RAM, nVidia GeForce 7150M, Conexant HD Audio, G-tech 500GB G-drive [view my complete system specs]

    There is no such thing as a video emergency.  My Demo Website

  • Thu, Apr 23 2009 10:31 PM In reply to

    • feglo
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    Re: My Avid Beast!

    BobbyMurcerFan:

    Run, don't walk, and get TMPGEnc Xpress 4.0. It's about $100 and is worth every penny, especially with an application like Avid. Because it can ingest and convert anything into just about anything.

    I've imported DVD's and transcoded them directly into DNxHD or 1:1 all in one step inside Xpress 4.0. Another cool DVD feature is you can set in and out marks, so you don't have to ingest the entire DVD or chapter, only what you think you might need.

    But the program does so much more. It's a must have, is rock solid and will make your life a lot easier.

    HTH ;).

     

    this was the software I was talking about, I was hitting the reply button, but not the qupte button...I thought that it was showing me what I was quoting in the grey box, I didn't know I actually had to click it.

     

    thanks.

    Media Composer 3.5 Vista Business 64Bit Intel Dual Quad Core Q9650 3GHz Intel® Extreme Mother Board DP45SG 8GB Crucial Memory Nvidia Quadro FX1700... [view my complete system specs]
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