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  • Wed, Jun 25 2008 8:58 PM

    • outpostbc
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    22" widescreen LCD monitors

    Hello all,

     

    Is anyone out there using 22" widescreen LCDs for the Media Composer? I need to get some new monitors, but I am a little scared about losing screen real estate by going widescreen.

     

     

    Mark

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  • Wed, Jun 25 2008 9:03 PM In reply to

    • BLKDOG
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    Re: 22" widescreen LCD monitors

    Losing? Why would you lose Screen real estate with Wide screen? All of our systems are 23" wide screen and they give you much more real estate than 4 x 3 monitors.

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  • Wed, Jun 25 2008 9:06 PM In reply to

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    Re: 22" widescreen LCD monitors

    I purchased a 19" widescreen for home use and felt the screen was not tall enough. Didn't give me the room I like to have for timline and monitors.

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  • Wed, Jun 25 2008 9:15 PM In reply to

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    Re: 22" widescreen LCD monitors

    Well, I don't know what monitor you had before but, with the much higher screen sizes of the LCD monitors, I can't imagine not being able to fit everything in. What screen resolution are you using?

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  • Wed, Jun 25 2008 9:23 PM In reply to

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    Re: 22" widescreen LCD monitors

    Running 1280x1024 resoulution. I think you have convinced me to go with the widescreensSmile

     

    Thanks

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  • Wed, Jun 25 2008 9:26 PM In reply to

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    Re: 22" widescreen LCD monitors

    Most of our screens run at 1920 x 1200 A lot more screen space that way. 

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  • Wed, Jun 25 2008 10:18 PM In reply to

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    Re: 22" widescreen LCD monitors

    Practically speaking I still prefer to edit with two monitors. I have bins and tools in one monitor and timeline and viewers on the other - the separate monitors provides clear dileation between the two. I find it harder to come up with a screen layout I'm happy with on a single monitor.

    Personally I'd rather have two monitors. Ideally they'd be two widescreens, but on one suite we have a wide screen and a 4:3 montior - that works fairly well.

    2x 1280x1024 is 2560x1024 - the best I can do with my 22" widescree on my desktop PC here is 1680x1050 which doesn't feel like enough.

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  • Wed, Jun 25 2008 10:40 PM In reply to

    Re: 22" widescreen LCD monitors

    Many of our online editors here prefer stretching the Timeline across both 24" displays ....

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  • Wed, Jun 25 2008 10:46 PM In reply to

    Re: 22" widescreen LCD monitors

    I actually prefer two large 4x3 monitors.  Widescreen displays causes the ratio between the timeline and the source/record monitors to go out of wack IMHO.  When stretched across the entire widescreen display.  The source/record takes up roughly %80 of the screen, leaving only %20 or so for the timeline.  On a 4x3 display, the ratio is much closer together.  Thus I prefer two 'large' 4x3 displays.  Still get the real estate of larger resolutions, but not the excessive width.

     

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  • Thu, Jun 26 2008 12:06 AM In reply to

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    Re: 22" widescreen LCD monitors

    I'm using two monitors - a 19inch 4:3 and a 22 widescreen (same height), and recently I swapped them: using the wide one for the bins. And it actually makes sense: more clutter on that one, and the Timeline and Composer fit better on a 4:3.

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  • Thu, Jun 26 2008 12:48 AM In reply to

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    Re: 22" widescreen LCD monitors

     I also have 2 wide screens, 22" & 24". I have a picture of the set-up on my website. On my two deck work desk (Winsted) I keep the 22" on the lower tear so it isn't such an eye strain looking at bins. The 24" is on the upper monitor shelve. It displays only the source/record monitors & timeline. I tried stretching the time line across the two displays but the sides on the monitors are too distracting for me.

    Leo

     

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  • Thu, Jun 26 2008 9:18 AM In reply to

    Re: 22" widescreen LCD monitors

    Todd Sanderson:
    Widescreen displays causes the ratio between the timeline and the source/record monitors to go out of wack IMHO.

    That makes little sense to me. That would just be a matter of arranging those windows. You can have them laid out the same way on a 22"WS (1680x1050) monitor as on a non-WS 19" (1280x1024) monitor, but the 22" monitor will leave room for more tools to either the left of the right of the Composer&TImeline windows. That would be the point.

    Got 2 22" monitors on my SN system. I chose th 22" 1680x1050 because of the larger pixel pitch, compared to 24" 1920x1200. I find the pixels too tiny on those 1920x1200 24" monitors, and do not have the physical desk space to accomodate two 26" 1920x1200 monitors (which have a larger pixel pitch).

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  • Thu, Jun 26 2008 9:56 AM In reply to

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    Re: 22" widescreen LCD monitors

    Very interesting thread as I've just moved from 2 X 19" 4:3 CRT computer monitors to 2 X 21" LCD monitors and can't settle on a resolution that preserves the correct aspect ratio in the Avid source/record windows. If the application fills the screen the closest I seem to get to getting the same aspect ratio (circles appear correct) on both the avid monitors and my 26" wide screen monitor is 1280 x 768.

    Should I be tweaking the settings so the app doesn't fit the screen completely to get better performance? All the other available settings, (and there's a lot of them), seem to squeeze the avid monitors pictures in one way or the other.

    I've been using the 19" 4:3 for the last 4 years so monitor resolution hasn't been something I've grappled with before. Does Avid recommend a resolution setting for MC? Can each monitor be set independently? Back in the distant past this wasn't the case.

    I'll be grateful for anyone's experience in setting up computer monitor resolution.

    Thanks

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  • Thu, Jun 26 2008 2:02 PM In reply to

    Re: 22" widescreen LCD monitors

    Job ter Burg:

     

    That makes little sense to me.

    It makes sense to me and it's a matter of preference, not arrangment.  I honestly did not anticipate or consider this fact when buying two WS displays for my home Avid.  That's the point for me.  Of course I can shrink down the S/R windows, but I don't want to.  I've had the S/R and Timeline filling up an entire display since oh... 1996!  I'm stubborn and old and that's how I want it. 

    All: See the attached jpeg for examples of both layouts on a WS display.


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  • Thu, Jun 26 2008 2:15 PM In reply to

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    Re: 22" widescreen LCD monitors

    Todd Sanderson:
    I'm stubborn and old and that's how I want it. 

    Todd,

    Me too. However, I use two widescreens (30" cinema displays) with the left monitor at a lower resolution so I can read the tiny print in the bins easier. My right monitor is set up similar to your 1st widescreen sample. The empty space is where my effects editor pops up. It makes it  easier to drag an effect icon to other clips on the timeline. One of my guys uses two 23's at full resolution. This 26 year old punk (just kidding, he's a great kid) has no trouble reading anything - but when he calls me over to help him with a problem, I have to kick him out of his chair and put my nose up against his monitor in order to see anything!

    This is growing old gracefully?

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