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  • Thu, Sep 13 2007 1:29 PM

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    2 GB limit with network capture

    I used alldrives in the command window to enable capturing to drives on remote machines.  But every 11 minutes, the capture would stop.  I looked at the files and realized they are being punished with a 2 GB limit.  These are NTFS volumes and have no such limit.  Is there something else I need to do to tell Media Composer not to enforce that limit?

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    MCLowe

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  • Thu, Sep 13 2007 1:44 PM In reply to

    • bsuttie
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    Re: 2 GB limit with network capture

    Are you using OMF?  Try MXF

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    Brian

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  • Thu, Sep 13 2007 1:50 PM In reply to

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    Re: 2 GB limit with network capture

    Nope.  MXF 1080i HDV.  There has to be some trick.  I capture hours of footage with Avid Liquid over the network all the time.
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  • Thu, Sep 13 2007 2:09 PM In reply to

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    Re: 2 GB limit with network capture

    I don't know how to help you, i'm new to Avid MC, but can i ask you what kind of network are you using? Gigabit? Fibre? and what kind of disks/server/raid are you using?
    Sorry for the OT

    Thank you
    Luigi
  • Fri, Sep 14 2007 5:10 AM In reply to

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    Re: 2 GB limit with network capture

    Nothing special, really.  Just a Gigabit network and regular drives.  A 750 Gig drive that happens to be on another machine... not RAIDed or anything like that.

    I'm guessing there must be a way to tell MC that the drives are non-FAT, as it seems to be assuming they are.

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  • Fri, Sep 14 2007 5:25 PM In reply to

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    Re: 2 GB limit with network capture

    I would never capture to a networked computer's drive, attach this drive to your editing computer.

    However see in capture settings

    MXF media files

    Maximum capture time

    What is the duration set to ?

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  • Sat, Sep 15 2007 6:46 AM In reply to

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    Re: 2 GB limit with network capture

    It's not that, otherwise I would have a problem with local drives as well.  I have the minimum set to 2 hours, and I have files captured locally in excess of 12 Gigs.

    I have never had trouble using network drives and do it all the time with Liquid.  The network has NEVER been a bottleneck for me with the Gigabit, so it's just as good as local storage.  I have Terabytes spread across 5 machines, so I really use network drives all the time.

    I should also say that these files are all exactly the same size, so it's definitely some sort of hard limit at 2 GB... not something coincidentally stopping them at nearly the same time.

    Thanks,
    M

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  • Sat, Sep 15 2007 11:58 AM In reply to

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    Re: 2 GB limit with network capture

    You're no longer in the "Luquid" world. Here the shared storage may also be called Unity

    There is a specific forum fur Unity.

    Maybe this was possible with Liquid, but again, I NEVER would do that with Media Composer software or MCA. Anyway, even a Gb network won't have the ability to edit 1:1 SD with RT streams as local striped SCSI discs would do it. A professuional media share environment is more complicated as a single Gb network.

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  • Sat, Sep 15 2007 7:27 PM In reply to

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    Re: 2 GB limit with network capture

    Excellent brother, let's not argue the issue of my network capture.  It works beautifully.  For 11 minutes at a time only.

    My issue is with the 2 GB limit.  The network capture, editing and playback ALL work fine.  Even RT!!  Yes, even RT HDV with non-striped non-SCSI drives.  I'm doing HDV RT and it works beautifully  over my "non-professional" 1 GB-only network.

    SO...

    Let's stick strictly to the 2GB limit issue please.

    Thanks for your suggestions all the same.

    Peace,
    M

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  • Sun, Sep 16 2007 3:02 AM In reply to

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    Re: 2 GB limit with network capture

    I'd have to go along with Sep on this one. Liquid is not at all the same technology (remember when it was made by Pinnacle?) and under the skin, really can't be compared in any way to MC. Make sure your capture settings are not set for max. 2gB, then try a local drive.
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  • Sun, Sep 16 2007 6:15 AM In reply to

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    Re: 2 GB limit with network capture

    Local works fine with as long as I need to capture.  But I have a couple Terabytes of free space non-local which I don't have on local.  I think there has to be a better answer somewhere.  It works, it just stops at 2 GB.  I'm sure there's probably an obscure command I can enter.

    I will keep hunting till I find the answer.

    Peace,
    M

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  • Sun, Sep 16 2007 12:44 PM In reply to

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    Re: 2 GB limit with network capture

    Good luck !
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  • Fri, Jul 4 2008 9:09 PM In reply to

    Re: 2 GB limit with network capture

    I am hoping to do something similar, except I can't get MC v2.8 to even recognize network drives at all. I only see locally attached drives, even with the option to filter out network drives disabled. I have one Avid MC 2.8 station with a few hundred Gb of local storage, but would like to use an Equallogic SAN with 8Tb for video storage.

    The original poster suggests he can capture to network drives fine, except for the 2Gb limit. I can't even see the network drives in Avid... is there a trick to make them available for capturing?

     

     

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  • Fri, Jul 4 2008 9:29 PM In reply to

    Re: 2 GB limit with network capture

    Sorry, I re-read this thread and found the answer within - issue the "alldrives" command in the console window, and it now works fine.

    I think I know the answer to my next question, but I'll ask anyway...

    Is there a way to share media storage with two or more Avid MC PCs without having a Unity system? I'm guessing not, since MC seems to keep very close tabs on the index for the media files area, and probably locks it. At present, I have only one MC station, but would like to add 1-2 more, and don't want to have all the media separated for each machine. 2-3 machines would be shared by 10-15 students, so if this doesn't work, they'd have to use the same machine each time, which is far from ideal.

     

     

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  • Sat, Jul 5 2008 2:01 AM In reply to

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    Re: 2 GB limit with network capture

    Some versions of microsofts network protocol smb limit the size of files to 2gb, even on ntfs drives. So the problem could be the transfer, not the storage space.

    We use locally attached external harddrives for per-student / per-project storage instead of network solutions. This is faster and more reliable than our local area network, and adds the possibility to use whatever workstation is free at the moment or to take your work home.

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