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  • Sat, Jul 7 2007 1:51 AM

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    Black bar / lines appear in rendered effect

    I've been having a problem with DVE type effects, 3d warp or Picture in picture, for example.  Real time they play back fine, but when rendered, a black bar at the edge of frame or a bunch of lines running through the picture will appear seemingly at random.  Footage might be fine for three seconds, then a bar for a few frames, then fine again for five seconds, then a bunch of lines.  I attached a picture as an example.  Has anyone seen something like this before?

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  • Sat, Jul 7 2007 2:24 AM In reply to

    Re: Black bar / lines appear in rendered effect

    You may want to run a system test. It sound to me like one of the boards has gone bad. Or maybe needs to be reseated.
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  • Sat, Jul 7 2007 8:17 AM In reply to

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    Re: Black bar / lines appear in rendered effect

    Thanks for your suggestion.  I tried reseating all the cards/boards in the pc and i/o box, but problem remains.  It does seem like a bad board, although according to Avid System Test Pro (6.0.0) everything is ok...
  • Sat, Jul 7 2007 3:37 PM In reply to

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    Re: Black bar / lines appear in rendered effect

    Seems indeed that the 3D board is not healthy !

    Maybe a stupid suggestion, you say unrendered FX do not show the problem, you only notice them once rendered ! How will a mixdown react on an unrenderd FX ?

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  • Sat, Jul 7 2007 4:19 PM In reply to

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    Re: Black bar / lines appear in rendered effect

    Intermittent problems.. nothing more fun then that.

    Did you re-seat the daughtercard on the DMB? Actually remove it, and re-attach?

    And passing the test doesn't mean it's good, it means the intermittent issue wasn't present that moment when the test came through.

    And Sep is right, his suggestion is stupid. :-)

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  • Sat, Jul 7 2007 4:26 PM In reply to

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    Re: Black bar / lines appear in rendered effect

    Doc Avid:
    And Sep is right, his suggestion is stupid. :-) JDS

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  • Mon, Jul 9 2007 6:45 AM In reply to

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    Re: Black bar / lines appear in rendered effect

    I only reseated the PCI cards to the motherboard and didn't remove any daughtercards.  I'll try this tomorrow.

    There must be a clue in that it doesn't appear in real time playback, only when rendered.  Does anyone know how the pipeline differs in this case for say, a picture in picture?
  • Tue, Jul 10 2007 3:38 AM In reply to

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    Re: Black bar / lines appear in rendered effect

    Unfortunately I wasn't able to remove the daughtercard from the DMB - couldn't remove the double sided plastic pegs holding the boards together.  May have to send this one in for service.
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    Re: Black bar / lines appear in rendered effect

    I have similar black lines problem at the moment, I ran "Avid System Test Pro" and "3d Effects Board Set" sometimes passes the test but sometimes it fails. I wonder how you could solve the problem. Was those black lines caused by broken board? Your answer will  help a lot.

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  • Thu, Mar 6 2008 2:38 PM In reply to

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    Re: Black bar / lines appear in rendered effect

    If you get intermittent failures during the test, the board COULD simply need to be reseated. Have you tried that?

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  • Wed, Mar 19 2008 12:47 PM In reply to

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    Re: Black bar / lines appear in rendered effect

     Yes, we reseated the boards (Digital Media Board, Video I/O Board, Display Controller, 3D Effects Board Set )  firstly, it didn't help,

    we replaced 4 electrolitic condansators on the 3D Effects Board (220UF, 6.3Volt) but the failure continued intermittently.

     When I run "Avid System Test Pro" it sometimes does not detect some of the boards, sometimes it detects but some tests fail and every time different board's different test items fail. In this case I can not clearly identify the faulty board.

  • Thu, Jun 26 2008 6:58 PM In reply to

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    Re: Black bar / lines appear in rendered effect

    Did you get the problem resolved? And what was the issue? I have seen similiar issue and can not fix it.

  • Thu, Jun 26 2008 7:04 PM In reply to

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    Re: Black bar / lines appear in rendered effect

    You need to check in your General settings to make sure that your Render aperture is set to the same size as he resolution in which you are capturing.

     

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    Re: Black bar / lines appear in rendered effect

    This black bar is happening on a meridian symphony.I did not see a render aperture in the general settings. We are capturing SDI only.

  • Thu, Jun 26 2008 10:10 PM In reply to

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    Re: Black bar / lines appear in rendered effect

    So Sorry. I thought you were referring to more current software.

    Is your black bar only on one side or do you have thin bars on left and right?

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