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  • Sat, Apr 7 2018 9:25 PM

    • jef
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    Shared bins and projects going forward

    A quick reading of the Media Composer product comparison seems to show that regular Media Composer will NOT have the ability to share bins and projects as of 2018.4.  Is this correct?

    Also, does any of this impact the use of non Avid storage (Facilis Terrablock for instance) in a shared storage environment?

    Thanks,

    Jef

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  • Sat, Apr 7 2018 10:35 PM In reply to

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    Re: Shared bins and projects going forward

    Ok, I found the FAQ and it seems that a perpetual license (my interest here) of Media Composer becomes Media Composer | Ultimate.  So no issue.  All good.

    So - Never Mind. Smile

    Jef

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  • Sun, Apr 8 2018 9:25 AM In reply to

    Re: Shared bins and projects going forward

    Oh no,

    Not this non-ultimate -> no shared project + storage support and ultimate just being the new perpetual.

    The scalability option is IMHO THE great advantage to gain for MC. My perfect world would consist of a free MC that will allow AMA link and consolidate (not transcode,only rewrap so only MC native media) into a shared storage + pre-edit. Media composer for transcode and pre edit purposes, MC Ultimate for final editing color correcting and master.

    This restriction of the shared workflows to Ultimate is IMHO so much 20th century thinking. If flexibility, sharing and everywhere are the magic marketing definitions in 2018 why keep restricting that specific feature of MC to just 1 version of MC?

    But let me end this positively with a request Avid!

    Please build NEXIS/ISIS DETECTION inside Media composer free and Media composer (not ultimate) and enable project sharing on both when they use a real Nexis/ISIS storage and not an avid storage emulation. Please Avid... Please! 

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  • Sun, Apr 8 2018 11:54 AM In reply to

    Re: Shared bins and projects going forward

    I read it as: all current users keep those options. But you can now also have a “light” license (fewer features, web-support) for 200/yr (less than annual support plan for perpetual licenses). Seems like a thing I’ll add to my MacBookPro just to have a license on there for whenever. In addition to the three “full” licenses I already own.

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  • Sun, Apr 8 2018 2:58 PM In reply to

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    Re: Shared bins and projects going forward

    Jeroen van Eekeres:

    Please build NEXIS/ISIS DETECTION inside Media composer free and Media composer (not ultimate) and enable project sharing on both when they use a real Nexis/ISIS storage and not an avid storage emulation. Please Avid... Please! 

    While I think I understand your point here, it does worry me that you are asking Avid to somewhat return to the days of closed proprietary hardware.  By that I mean before customers could buy IO cards from any manufacturer.

    We use Facilis Terrablock for a vairety of reasons.  And evey time I see the warning about 3rd party shared storage when opening a project (not sure of exact wording there) I do wonder if Avid will be adding a fee to allow us to use non Avid storage sometime in the near future.

    Jef

     

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  • Wed, Apr 11 2018 9:08 AM In reply to

    Re: Shared bins and projects going forward

    Hi Jef,


    Not only do I understand your point, I think we are on the same side here with only minor differences, although Avid sales, marketing and especially the beancounters will probably disagree on the 'minor'.
    Before starting any argument let me typically (re)confirm that where the sweet point is of MC versions, free, standard, ultimate (or further differentiated), en/disabled features in each version and each individual's price will always remain a subject of debate. Never will Avid be able to make everbody in the business happy and that should also never become a sought after goal. What matters is which target groups Avid wants to focus on to make some money. I have been trying to extrapolate these groups from Avid's products, features and price portofolio for decades and (while I might be getting it wrong) Avid keeps surprising me.
    On Topic, IMHO this whole problem goes back to the introduction of AMA linking in Media composer 3.5 and the role of the (local) media indexer and how development has gone on from there. Avid has left an ingest market open for companies like:
    Telestream, Root6, Harmonic, NLTek, Woody, Mog, Axel and I could go on.
    While Avid was a King in media management, when it came to AMA sources, Avid's answer to the markets needs has until now been a product called mediadirector and we are still waiting for the production (standalone) version of mediacentral.
    Avid knows what the needs are for non-interplay shared storage customers but their answer for getting media into Avid's 'op-atom AvidMediaFiles' form has always remained 1 product: Media Composer. And in 2018 at the ..... opportunity to give the user base a choice to use a stripped down version of MC to do the ingest and pre-edit work Avid again refuses to do so.
    But what makes it even worse for me is the fact that Nexis is a supported storage for adobe premiere cc 2018 which comes at approx 25 euros a month but not the new version of media composer (non ultimate) at 20-25 euros a month.
    It's almost like Avid is saying: You need to have the symphony option to ingest your media on a shared storage.
    From this perspective I'm indifferent to wether or not Facilis should also be considered a supported storage. That's another thread. But if it would be a good idea, Nexis would most certainly need to lead the way.

    Regards,

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  • Wed, Jul 11 2018 6:50 PM In reply to

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    Re: Shared bins and projects going forward

    Help! 

     

    So if i have new MEDIA COMPOSER (non "ULTIMATE") i can't send co'editor a BIN; or open one when he sends me ???

    If so, it's ridiculus, or maybe i'm missing something and such basic funcionality is not forbidden? My licence is fading, and i was hoping to buy regular media composer - i don't need fancy features that come with ultimate.. 

  • Wed, Jul 11 2018 6:59 PM In reply to

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    Re: Shared bins and projects going forward

    As I understand things you should be able to send and recieve a bin at the finder level and use them with no problem.

    The restriction is that you can not open a bin that another editor is using at the same time in a shared project / media environment.

    But if some one just gives you a copy of a project / bin and you open it locally, you should be good.

    Jef

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  • Wed, Jul 11 2018 7:39 PM In reply to

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    Re: Shared bins and projects going forward

    Jef is spot on......

    MC Ultimate comparision is a good scan http://www.avid.com/media-composer-ultimate/comparison. Net net is Ultimate supports the following:

    Interplay | Production

    Interplay | MAM
    MediaCentral
    MediaCentral | Cloud UX
    Avid NEXIS shared bins and projects

    iNEWS

    HTH

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