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  • Mon, Jul 10 2017 10:48 PM In reply to

    Re: Editing Panasonic GH5 files

    I used the MP42MXF command - it generated the MXF files, is that what you did Toby?

     

     

  • Mon, Jul 10 2017 10:53 PM In reply to

    Re: Editing Panasonic GH5 files

    Is there any details instructions on how to do this please?  

     

    There's mp42mxf and then raw2bmx.exe, what do I use???

  • Tue, Jul 11 2017 12:24 AM In reply to

    Re: Editing Panasonic GH5 files

    pierreh:
    Yesterday we ran some tests on a Mac Studio version (12.5.6, not the new 14 beta) and it deals with GH5 files pretty well.
    Resolve 14 beta runs much faster the 12.x (they claim up to 10 x faster)  FWIW Here I now see some timelines that used to struggled to play at 5 FPS with Resolve Studio 12 run at 25 FPS with Resolve Studio 14b on a old MacPro .  And on a PC with a 1070 installed effortlessly at 25 with most clips having 3 or more nodes active.  Not noticing 14 being buggy but most common usage is to get deliver different formats to Avid proxie footage.

  • Tue, Jul 11 2017 3:30 AM In reply to

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    Re: Editing Panasonic GH5 files

    Asaf, 

    my original files were MOV so I used mov2mxf

     

    i just followed the instructions on that link - unfortunately no, no more detailed instructions anywhere! :(

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  • Tue, Jul 11 2017 12:11 PM In reply to

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    Re: Editing Panasonic GH5 files

    Asaf,

    here are some more ideas to problem solve your issue:

    - were the mxfs created successfully? If not, did you definitely add the environment variables as required by the instructions? If not, the scripts will not work and you won't be able to create MXFs.

    - did you make sure to AMA LINK them into avid, not import?

    - what version of avid are you running? This is only confirmed to work on 8.6

    - what format (4k or c4k) were your files in? What fps? Make sure you look at my post regarding which formats seem to work

    i hope those are helpful :)

     

     

    toby

     

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  • Tue, Jul 11 2017 12:19 PM In reply to

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    Re: Editing Panasonic GH5 files

    AndrewAction,

    Yes Resolve Studio beta (14xx) on windows is quite fast with gh5 4k 10-bit h264, but be warned everyone that:

    - you need 32gb of ram (16gb will cause Windows to 'pause' annoyingly when you move your playhead too much) - and the faster the better. DDR3 1800mhz is too slow in my experience.

    - after trial and error, I have realised that a GTX760 is not sufficient for editing these files in Resolve Studio. (This probably also applies to Avid too, if you're using the 'rewrap' method to get raw h264 into Avid) Newer Nvidia cards can decode H264 insanely faster. a GTX 1070 is really the minimum I would recommend to make it usable. Ideally even faster!

     

    toby

     

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  • Tue, Jul 11 2017 4:48 PM In reply to

    Re: Editing Panasonic GH5 files

    Hi Toby,

    Thanks for your help.

     

    Asaf,

    here are some more ideas to problem solve your issue:

    - were the mxfs created successfully? If not, did you definitely add the environment variables as required by the instructions? If not, the scripts will not work and you won't be able to create MXFs.

    **Yes, I was able to create the MXF files successfuly.

    - did you make sure to AMA LINK them into avid, not import?
    ***Yes, I did.

    - what version of avid are you running? This is only confirmed to work on 8.6
    *** I'm using 8.8.5

    - what format (4k or c4k) were your files in? What fps? Make sure you look at my post regarding which formats seem to work

    10-bit 4:2:2 24p.

    i hope those are helpful :)

    Thanks :)

     

     

    toby

  • Tue, Jul 11 2017 5:38 PM In reply to

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    Re: Editing Panasonic GH5 files

    Hi Asaf,

    The only other variable I can think is that a previous installation of Codecs on my system could be necessary?

    If I was you I would install the free Panasonic P2 plugin for AMA:

    https://eww.pass.panasonic.co.jp/pro-av/support/content/download/EN/ep2main/ama_e.htm#tabs-2

    It's a bit of a dumb bit of software - once you install it, it is VERY confusing as it appears (in the little utility application that comes with it) as if nothing is installed. But actually, in the free version, it installs some basic P2 codecs, including AVC-Intra422.

    Perhaps it is one of these codecs that is actually allowing H264 to function in Avid's AMA, as long as it sees an MXF?

     

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  • Wed, Jul 12 2017 12:50 PM In reply to

    Re: Editing Panasonic GH5 files

    Yeah, i tried it with the plug-in, didn't work for me alas :(

  • Thu, Jul 13 2017 1:43 AM In reply to

    Re: Editing Panasonic GH5 files

    The latest firmware adds 10bit support for FHD as well.

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  • Fri, Jul 14 2017 10:29 PM In reply to

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    Re: Editing Panasonic GH5 files

    Asaf - the only other factor is that you shot your footage as MP4, yes? I shot mine as MOV, then use MOVtoMXF.

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  • Fri, Jul 14 2017 11:15 PM In reply to

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  • Fri, Aug 4 2017 9:11 PM In reply to

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    Re: Editing Panasonic GH5 files

    Asaf, if you're still having this issue, would you be able to record a quick clip with the GH5 (a few seconds), then re-wrap as you have been and upload somewhere? I can then see if it works in my Avid. Then we know whether it is because of Avid on your end or the re-wrap process.

     

    FYI, another piece of the puzzle... Avid's AMA reports that these files don't use Quicktime, they use "MSP_MXF". I don't think that really helps us though lol. I think this just means that Avid is using "AMA", which... duh. :-)

     

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  • Sun, Aug 6 2017 2:11 AM In reply to

    Re: Editing Panasonic GH5 files

    Hi Toby,

    I'm using Resolve 14 Beta 6 Studio paid version and my workflow is to take the 10bit files and create an Avid AAF. Works great.

  • Sun, Aug 6 2017 4:42 PM In reply to

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    Re: Editing Panasonic GH5 files

    thats so great! So you mean transcoding to dnxhr inside an aaf? Or have u worked out how to make DaVinci wrap the files?

    ive given up on the wrapped files lol. The codec is just tooooo slowwwww - both inside DaVinci and Avid. Plus it is mega buggy - even inside DaVinci I often get weird random frames saying 'media offline' zz

    im transcoding to dnxhr 444 in Davinci, limping into avid (aaf has stopped working for me in latest beta of 14 on pc - I have to put the mxfs into the Avidmediafiles folder then use Media tool in avid to find the masterclips then drag them to a new bin arrrgh), then switching to an SD project, transcoding to 14:1 so I can edit mega mega fast. :) any amount of lag really pisses me off hahaha so this way Avid is very responsive.

    sigh. It's all a pain though. Can't wait for the new gh5 firmware - all-I should make the 10 bit codec much faster. Long GOP sucks!

     

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