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  • Wed, Sep 7 2016 5:35 PM In reply to

    • DStone
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    Re: We need XAVC-S AMA since a year. Why is there no XAVC-S?

    I don't have a Mac, but I see that there is a trial mode for EditReady, and it's an inexpensive product to buy if it works for you.

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  • Thu, Sep 8 2016 12:23 AM In reply to

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    Re: We need XAVC-S AMA since a year. Why is there no XAVC-S?

    I'm embarrased and grateful.  Embarrassed because I downloaded a trial version of EditReady a year ago and couldn't figure out how to make it work.  But extremely grateful to you and to Dave S. for pointing me in the right direction and simplifying my crazy editing workflow.  Thank you!

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  • Mon, Oct 31 2016 6:00 PM In reply to

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    Re: We need XAVC-S AMA since a year. Why is there no XAVC-S?

    Here's an interesting detail: EditReady enables me to link the clips to MC with no problem.  Each clips plays without a glitch from beginning to end, and this lets me decide whether the clip is worth transcoding.  But it's clear that MC is laboring with the XAVC S codec.  If I stop and restart playback, I get some seconds of the spinning beach ball before playback resumes.  Same is true when I load the next clip into the viewer window.  I tried the same clips in Premiere Pro and there are no hesitations.  PP handles the complex decoding of XAVC S fluently.

     

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    Re: We need XAVC-S AMA since a year. Why is there no XAVC-S?

    Just revisitng this message board and reminded myself to thank you for this simple workflow DStone, I am currently useing it and it works GREAT! I will impliment it into class this year. I just hope Avid and Sony can kiss and make up and set XAVC-S to run native in AMA one day.

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  • Wed, Jan 11 2017 2:07 AM In reply to

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    Re: We need XAVC-S AMA since a year. Why is there no XAVC-S?

    A few weeks ago, it was announced that Sony gave AMA plugin development to another company called Nablet.  I'd guess Nablet will have something soon if they don't already.  I don't use those formats so I don't know if something is out and working from them yet.  The news about Nablet and its plugins has been discussed here recently so you might find some helpful info searching for "Nablet" here on Avid's forums.  It would be worth taking a look at the Nablet website, also, to see what's said there.

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  • Thu, Jan 12 2017 2:22 AM In reply to

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    Re: We need XAVC-S AMA since a year. Why is there no XAVC-S?

    This is one of those issues that I really don't understand why it's an issue. It's not that MC can't process media encoded using XAVC-S because it can. It's the container format it doesn't like. This is why rewrapping the data in a different container works. Same media data, different file format. You'd think this would be pretty simple to code up for an AMA plug-in.

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  • Thu, Jan 12 2017 3:12 AM In reply to

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    Re: We need XAVC-S AMA since a year. Why is there no XAVC-S?

    I agree.  But when XAVC-S files rewrapped as QuickTimes are linked to MC, the playback presents problems: if I move the playhead to another point in the clip, there are long delays before I can resume playback.  Likewise for playing in reverse.  MC evidently can't keep up with decoding the compressed file.  I know the problem isn't my computer since playback of the same files in Premiere Pro is flawless.

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  • Thu, Jan 12 2017 4:56 PM In reply to

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    Re: We need XAVC-S AMA since a year. Why is there no XAVC-S?

    Actually the only performance issues I have with XAVC-S is stuttering, and that's probably due to having the media on a 2-drive RAID 0 (a 3-drive RAID 0 should be able to keep up). I do not have long delays when moving the playhead or when playing backwards; just stuttering.

    For editing, I transcode everything to DNxHR HQ anyway. That gets rid of the stutter.

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  • Thu, Jan 12 2017 5:06 PM In reply to

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    Re: We need XAVC-S AMA since a year. Why is there no XAVC-S?

    I transcode too for editing.  It's interesting that you can edit XAVC-S in Premiere without transcoding.

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  • Thu, Jan 12 2017 5:31 PM In reply to

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    Re: We need XAVC-S AMA since a year. Why is there no XAVC-S?

    It's probably because Premiere is decoding the material natively, whereas it's likely that XAVC-S in MC is using Quicktime.

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    Re: Sony a7s MP4 AMA plugin?

    dmfreeman:

    I have been using Cliptoolz2 convert for the past year with my Sony FDR AX100.  I wrap the MP4 camera files to MOV, which takes virtually seconds per file, and they will Link into MC.  Let me know if you have problems locating the download and I can send you a ZIP file of it.  It is a small program. 

    Denny

     

    Hi !  I'm interested too but I can't find it [:'(]

    BTW I'm on Mac...

     

    Thanks !!!

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  • Tue, Apr 4 2017 1:54 PM In reply to

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    Re: Sony a7s MP4 AMA plugin?

    For my Mac I've been using EditReady, which costs $50, I think, but works reliably and quickly.  It solves the problem.

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    Re: Sony a7s MP4 AMA plugin?

    Rouch:

    For my Mac I've been using EditReady, which costs $50, I think, but works reliably and quickly.  It solves the problem.

    Thanks !

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  • Wed, Apr 5 2017 1:00 AM In reply to

    Re: We need XAVC-S AMA since a year. Why is there no XAVC-S?

    DStone:

    This is one of those issues that I really don't understand why it's an issue. It's not that MC can't process media encoded using XAVC-S because it can. It's the container format it doesn't like. This is why rewrapping the data in a different container works. Same media data, different file format. You'd think this would be pretty simple to code up for an AMA plug-in.

    In all honesty, I think it's more of a Sony issue than an Avid one. Sony wants to differentiate its cameras along consumer and professional lines. The A and a series Sonys are consumer cameras, so they get the conumer codec. The F series cameras are professional cameras and they get the professional codec.

    Avid is a professional editing app, so Sony has been balking writing an AMA plugin for their consumer cameras for it. It's not that they can't but they don't want to, for market positioning reasons.

    That's my take on it, FWIW.

     

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  • Wed, Apr 5 2017 1:25 AM In reply to

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    Re: We need XAVC-S AMA since a year. Why is there no XAVC-S?

    If that's so, then why the full-page Sony ads for the A7 cameras in American Cinematographer?  Is that a magazine for amateurs and consumers?

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