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  • Wed, Apr 10 2013 10:06 AM In reply to

    Re: The new AUDIO MIXER in MC 6 - TOO BIG

    Hi Rinze, don't you find eveything becomes so darn tiny on those 2560x1440 monitors? I'm using 22" 1680x1050 monitors because the pixels are larger (and so are tiny ojects).

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  • Wed, Apr 10 2013 10:24 AM In reply to

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    Re: The new AUDIO MIXER in MC 6 - TOO BIG

    I agree Job, at my age I'm starting to use those reading glasses more and more. But within Avid I can adjust font size accordingly and for the buttons I don't need them. Still it does help to use a gaming mouse (yes still on the mouse here, my hands are to big for those wacom pens) with adjustable speed and precision. But by all means come over and have a look for yourself, the coffee is ready.

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  • Wed, Apr 10 2013 10:36 AM In reply to

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    Re: The new AUDIO MIXER in MC 6 - TOO BIG

     

    Job ter Burg:

    Hi Rinze, don't you find eveything becomes so darn tiny on those 2560x1440 monitors?

    i agree.

     

    it can´t be the solution buying bigger screens, it´s a question of beeing able to adjust the UI for your personal workflow.

     

    one might do sound work by adding keyframes, another gets the same result by working with add edits and dissolves in the timeline.

    i like my fullscreen monitor in the center of my monitor setup, above the desktop monitors much low as possible. so bigger desktop monitors would result in neck pain ;)

     

    it remains a matter of taste. some musicvideo editors might even love the huge mixer, while a feature film editor who deals with the max amount of audio tracks complains about it.

     

    best would be to let the editor decide which tools he need to work. as it always was with the keyboard, timeline track size e.g.

     

    i´m glad to hear what larry reported about mc7, its a step in the right direction :)

     

     

     


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  • Wed, Apr 10 2013 10:38 AM In reply to

    Re: The new AUDIO MIXER in MC 6 - TOO BIG

    sven2615:
    i like my fullscreen monitor in the center of my monitor setup,
    Same here. Desktop monitors pretty low, big screen plasma a meter behind them, higher.

    Also notice you're using a center speaker there, like I do as well.

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  • Wed, Apr 10 2013 10:54 AM In reply to

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    Re: The new AUDIO MIXER in MC 6 - TOO BIG

    Hmmm seems we three do have the same setup is screens. Two low in front, the viewing monitor in the middle behind. Of course what I would consider the best option for the audio mixing tool is a physical audio mixing tool that works like a protools one (fe touch write) while addressing volume on seperate tracks and plugins. As far as I know you still have to use automation gain etc. on the most recent ones offered.

    As to the bigger monitors, sure the software should follow the workflow, but with usable waveforms that workflow is about to change with wider audio tracks. And with a vertical resolution of 1400 you just can stack more of them in a sequence while still getting detailed information on peaks, silences and the extra buttons version 7 is going to offer.

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  • Wed, Apr 10 2013 11:16 AM In reply to

    Re: The new AUDIO MIXER in MC 6 - TOO BIG

    True but Artist Mix does allow you to "latch" in Clip mode, so it helps. I like having it.

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  • Mon, Jul 29 2013 11:47 PM In reply to

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    Re: The new AUDIO MIXER in MC 6 - TOO BIG

    AGREE: TOO BIG!!!

    Dreaming too about a "Use classic Audio Mixer"! Big Smile

    Greets, Bilbo

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  • Tue, Aug 20 2013 12:17 AM In reply to

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    Re: The new AUDIO MIXER in MC 6 - TOO BIG

    having used a ssl console and a yamaha pm1d for years I like the size of the  mixer as it is easy to see whats what to small and things are harder for me to see fast  and I too use a artist mix and I love it...

     

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  • Tue, Aug 20 2013 6:30 AM In reply to

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    Re: The new AUDIO MIXER in MC 6 - TOO BIG

     

     

     

    nice idea,
    but i tried the artist mix in the past. its noisy, unprecise and distracting (noise wise and visually because the faders are moving on every cut with little motors)

    AND: i dont want to buy an external mixer to compensate the deficits of the UI...

     

     

     

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  • Mon, Nov 18 2013 3:19 PM In reply to

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    Re: The new AUDIO MIXER in MC 6 - TOO BIG

     

    please also read this thread...

    http://community.avid.com/forums/t/123948.aspx

    its a proposal how a smaller mixer could look like:
    (more screenshots in the other thread) 

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  • Mon, Nov 18 2013 6:24 PM In reply to

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    Re: The new AUDIO MIXER in MC 6 - TOO BIG

    This is exactly what I would want...nice job, thank you for putting that together. Hope someone from Avid sees it.

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  • Tue, Jan 7 2014 8:17 PM In reply to

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    Re: The new AUDIO MIXER in MC 6 - TOO BIG

    I edit reality television and just started a show that uses MC 6.  Been on MC 5 awhile, a lot of companies with dozens of editors still use MC 5.  Well, I got this unpleasent surprise to find the audio mixer tool is GIGANTIC on MC 6.  I don't know whose brilliant idea it was to make the audio mixer so big, but it is a nuisance.  

    Maybe for some people it is fine, but my screen real estate is limited to two 16x9 monitor that are not that huge.  Now I can't put the mixer on the same monitor with my timeline and composer window without shrinking the mixer down to FOUR tracks.  It is a royal pain.  I can put it on my other monitor with my bins, but now it gets covered with bins as I open then.

    Listen Avid, as someone who uses your software and edits a lot of shows that are on the teevee... please don't do ridiculous things like this.  Of course MC 6 isn't going to get any more updates -- but guess what, large companies with hundreds of avid licenses DON'T run out to upgrade to the newest version right away.  And, I might add, SHOULDN'T because every new version seems to have stupid new bugs.  I say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.  Well, so now I will be using MC 6 with this ridiculous huge avid mixer for the next year or two or until whenever companies decide to upgrade to 7, by which point 8 will be out.  Whatever, it'd be nice if Avid would fix this "feature" of 6 so that my screen isn't taken up with the pretty digital mixer knobs or the mixer levels for each individual channel.  

    The most important feature of the audio mixer for offline TV editors is to quickly adjust the pan and level of each channel, often times on a timeline with 12-16 channels of audio.  So shrink it down, make it useful, and don't make my life harder as a professional who's up against deadlines and producers to get a cut out the door.  I want fast.  I want efficient.  I don't want mickey mouse mixers.

     

    Thanks.

     

  • Tue, Jan 7 2014 10:53 PM In reply to

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    Re: The new AUDIO MIXER in MC 6 - TOO BIG

    +1!

    Too big.
    Also the knob tu use the pan are really not nice. It was much more comfortable with the sliders! 

    Very annoying.

     

    Please, react!
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  • Sun, Mar 9 2014 11:22 AM In reply to

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    Re: The new AUDIO MIXER in MC 6 - TOO BIG

    I really hope avid will surprise with a smaller, scalable and redesigned audio mixer (important buttons at exposed positions - see the mockup above) at Avid Connect beginning of April.

    + bring back color palette

    + proper audio/video sync on client monitors (delay issue)

    + change audio keyframes in timeline in smaller steps

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  • Sun, Mar 9 2014 11:32 AM In reply to

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    sven2615:
    hope avid will surprise .... at Avid Connect

    I would not expect Avid Connect to be the event where new products or improvements will be shown. It's a bit weird that everyone keeps thinking Avid Connect is about feature requests.

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