Avid DS

Re: So where have all the good times gone...?

M-Edit — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:40:49 GMT

Yeah, I know, but before they closed. went out of business
or whatever happened, they dropped the support for the
Avid DS (october 31, 2004) but still kept on developing for
the other Avid systems, like Symphony, Media Composer
and Xpress.

So I'm curious to why the Avid DS in certain areas is such
a seemingly non-profitable machine to make plug-ins for.
Because that's the only reason I can come to think of that
makes developers drop a product. If you can't make money
out of it, why the hell bother.

I had hoped that it would have been the other way round,
so that someone "out there" among the plugin-developers
realized that "Hey, hey, hey there's a huge vacuum here,
so let's make som 3D-plugins for the Avid DS" (and make
a hell of a lot of money).

But maybe the crude fact is that there isn't enough Avid DS
systems around to make it profitable to develop 3rd-party
products for it. At least not if you intend to target at a
"decent" price-level. Whatever that is in this world.

And of course, with the above posting I don't say that there
aren't any good plugins "out there" for the Avid DS.

Excellent examples of "good plugins" are Sapphire and Tinder
of which I have both installed and use every day..

And I think I like Sapphire the most, because they're fairly
easy to use, so you often get a "decent" result with the
Preset's "right-out-of-the-box" setting. I feel that Tinder
often needs quite some "tweaking" before you get
"where you intended". Both are great though.

But, and there's a big BUT here, they don't contain any effects
that could be related to 3D-stuff in any way. And if the pricing
for the Avid DS could be referred to a "decent", that's another
question.

So won't you tell me, where have all the... gone!

//mike

P.S.
The Kinks maybe knows...
D.S.

Re: So where have all the good times gone...?

ayakaonly — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:51:57 GMT

"Elastic Gasket" ... the company closed .....

So where have all the good times gone...?

M-Edit — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:44:49 GMT

...erhm, I mean where have all the good plugins for the DS gone?

Like every DS wishlist say, the DS is in desperate need of a
new 3D engine, but since that hasn't happened yet (if it ever will)
I wonder why products like Forge Technology's FreeForm (for DS)

http://www.forge.net/prod.htm

hasn't been able to survive, at least as a surrogate.

Support for After Effects has continued though, now att DigiEffects:
http://www.digieffects.com/products/freeformintro.html

The was also the Conoa 3D plugin which isn't anymore either.

Another one, was Profound Effects "Elastic Gasket" which made it
possible for the DS to use After Effect plugins. That must have
been great to be able to do that. But DS support was dropped
in 2004.

So...

//mike