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  • Wed, Apr 6 2011 4:37 PM

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    Disable or "mute" a Video Track?

    Can I do this and master with a VIDEO track disabled?  

    I have multiple timelines and don't want to duplicate and make a bunch of different versions.  If I just "hide" the track, it is not shown, but the track still plays in the sequence.

    Is there a way to disable or mute a video track?

     

    (I've got multiple sequences with 3 languages as subtitles.  I'd like to be able to Master out V1 video clean, then V2 eng titles, then Disable V2 and master from V3 spanish titles while still seeing V1 video)

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  • Wed, Apr 6 2011 4:46 PM In reply to

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    Re: Disable or "mute" a Video Track?

    (this is a workflow question --- over 150 timelines -- So deleting the tracks or moving them to another level is just a step that becomes exponentially time consuming for the editor(s))

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  • Wed, Apr 6 2011 4:52 PM In reply to

    Re: Disable or "mute" a Video Track?

    Unfortunately the answer is no. Currently there is not a way to "hide" specific video tracks, although you can mute specific audio tracks by turning off the audio monitor icon(s). The ability to hide specific video tracks is an often requested feature over the years, but for now you can only "solo" a specific video track by Command clicking (CTRL clicking in PC) the video monitor icon so it turns green, which will then display ONLY the contents of that track. To do what you want still requires additional versions of the timeline or relocating certain tracks vertically and changing the monitor position. Sorry I can't give you better news.

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  • Wed, Apr 6 2011 5:09 PM In reply to

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    Re: Disable or "mute" a Video Track?

    Thanks Larry.  You're always a great help.  

    Your answer is what I thought the case was.  Hopefully the feature will come in MC 6.0.  :-)

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  • Wed, Apr 6 2011 6:42 PM In reply to

    Re: Disable or "mute" a Video Track?

    I would suggest making SubSequences of the varying versions.  You could quickly do that with SubClip mapped to the keyboard.  

    Activate V1 and V2, Subclip

    Activate V1 and V3, Subclip

    and so on...  you'd get new sequences that only contain the tracks you had enabled.  

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  • Wed, Apr 6 2011 9:16 PM In reply to

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    Re: Disable or "mute" a Video Track?

    Not a bad suggestion, thanks Kenton.  

    What we've done is created a top level video track called "HOLD".   Basically we just segment move the entire track up to hold that we don't want, and master from the track(s) below.

    The reason I don't want to create the additional sequences is because there are so many and keeping track starts to become an issue.  Especially as we're exporting for review and/or making changes to the edit.

    Thanks!

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  • Thu, Jan 5 2012 10:42 AM In reply to

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    Re: Disable or "mute" a Video Track?

    This is a pretty basic thing, why does the most basic easiest thing get left out over the years? I have a problem where I just want 1 sequence with different alfa graphics on top and switch between them in order to tape out different versions, but I can't mute a video track.

    And of course they didn't include this in the major v6.0 release....    when when when?

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    Re: Disable or "mute" a Video Track?

    Glans:

    This is a pretty basic thing, why does the most basic easiest thing get left out over the years? 

     

    I guess because not everyone needs it, or we find ways of working that don't require it. I have to say in 13 years on Avid, mostly doing online, I've never missed it.

     

     

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  • Thu, Jan 5 2012 12:06 PM In reply to

    Re: Disable or "mute" a Video Track?

    Lord Fluff:

    Glans:

    This is a pretty basic thing, why does the most basic easiest thing get left out over the years? 

     

    I guess because not everyone needs it, or we find ways of working that don't require it. I have to say in 13 years on Avid, mostly doing online, I've never missed it.

     

     

    Id agree and also add that it potentially culd cause a lot of issues.

    What if you disabled a video track that is part of a stacked effect. The result of that effect (and any renders) would and should be changed by that track being disabled.

    So the act of disabling a track could cause a whole bunch of renders to be invalid and require re-rendering.

    And then what if you re-enable the track? Switch back to the old renders or re-render again?

    This would be a significant difference to the working of the media composer video processing.

     

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    Re: Disable or "mute" a Video Track?

    Pat Horridge:

    This would be a significant difference to the working of the media composer video processing.

     

    You make some excellent points here which I'd not even got as far as considering. It's not really a 'pretty basic' thing at all when you come to think about it.

    Better to employ working methods that suit the tool at hand. I try to remember this when I take jobs on FCP and waste time cursing it for not being more like Avid Big Smile

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    Re: Disable or "mute" a Video Track?

    Yeah - I just hate it when FCP is more flexible and easier to use than Avid.

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    Re: Disable or "mute" a Video Track?

    The catch is that every time you change visible tracks in FCP you have to re-render.

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    Re: Disable or "mute" a Video Track?

    Assuming there is something to render - yes. I'd much rather have the feature than not, however.

  • Mon, Jul 9 2012 7:28 AM In reply to

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    Re: Disable or "mute" a Video Track?

    Which I have to say I absolutely hate. Working with multi-layered video in FCP reminds me of just how good Avid is at handling renders - it always makes me smile when you move a clip away then bring it back and Avid goes "ah - I remember this being here before - let me just grab that render we already did." FCP on the other hand always seems desperate to bin every render it does at the first opportunity, making working with it a right royal pain.

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  • Wed, Aug 1 2012 7:02 PM In reply to

    Re: Disable or "mute" a Video Track?

    I'm just coming back to Media Composer after moving off of FCP and DS. I was just searching around how to do this... DS, FCP and Smoke all do this. Yes, there are render cache issues if you enable or disable in FCP, but it is actually incredibly useful and super FAST when you are working with Text masters or subtitles.

    This is a very important function for MC and Symphony.

     

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