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  • Tue, May 11 2010 12:26 AM

    • denniscasey
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    GPU Summary Proposal: MC5 Software and WIN7 64 Bit

    GPU issues/comments are scattered throughout this forum and I have read many posts including Hardware Advice from Avid. I have also received valuable answers to my questions from forum members.  I thought it might be helpful to propose a limited GPU summary for comment/corrections.  Please note, I also restrict this summary to apply only to MC5 (as much as we know about future benefits at least) ; WIN7 64 bit OS; and MC5 software only (no DX hardware such as Nitris, Mojo). 

    I stress there is nothing new here and I am only summarizing what I have understood from sources mentioned above, but considering also price/performance benefits for editing both SD and HD (but at hobbyist level, not broadcast level). I hope it is helpful and please correct me if I am wrong in what I have interpreted.

    1. Go with Nvidea FX1800 if you are building a new computer. It provides excellent GPU acceleration for the money: FX3800 and above mostly beneficial for distributed processing which also requires DX hardware. I asked an Avid system integrator and reseller who is recommending computer for me if I would boost rendering or encoding speeds by paying to upgrade from FX1800 to FX3800 and he said I would not see boost of anything with Avid MC software by doing that. I have read specs about FX1800 vs FX3800 and it seems hard to believe no great benefit from FX3800 given all the extra CUDA cores, bandwidth and so forth, but I guess MC5 software can't use all the extras?

    2. In terms of offloading transcoding from CPU, there are no third party transcoding hardware options for MC5 to speed up transcoding besides Nitris/Mojo.  As many have repeated, Matrox MX02 Mini with MC5 only benefits monitoring.

    3. Multicore processors, more RAM, fast HDD give more impact for dollar than upgrading GPU beyond FX1800--again, comment from Avid integrator and reseller.  And also in context of my hobbyist type usage--if editing more than 3 layers of HD he did say go with processor(s) faster than i7 2.66 GHz I am looking at.

    Regards, Dennis

     

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  • Tue, May 11 2010 3:58 AM In reply to

    • sam the sham
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    Re: GPU Summary Proposal: MC5 Software and WIN7 64 Bit

    Dennis,

    I'm also wondering if I should pay the extra money for FX3800, anxious to hear what the pros. have to say.

    This also worries me: In all the years I've had computers I never had a video card go bad until I bought PNY Nivida FX model. I've had two of these go out on me. I don't know, maybe I push them to hard.

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  • Tue, May 11 2010 4:08 AM In reply to

    Re: GPU Summary Proposal: MC5 Software and WIN7 64 Bit

    And I'd like to know if the "brand new FX 3700" I just bought is excluded from GPU acceleration?

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  • Wed, May 12 2010 5:39 PM In reply to

    • denniscasey
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    Re: GPU Summary Proposal: MC5 Software and WIN7 64 Bit

    Dan, we aren't getting comments from pros which I hope means my summary is correct and so obvious (I did say I thought there was nothing new here, just an attempt to summarize comments spread throughout forum)  to pros that it needs no comment. Regards, Dennis

     

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  • Thu, May 13 2010 3:20 AM In reply to

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    Re: GPU Summary Proposal: MC5 Software and WIN7 64 Bit

    I agree Dennis, great forum with very bright folks. Your summary seems to to jive with what I've read and how it fits what I am, a hobbyist.

    But still one thing that haunts me by not selecting high end card is that for one I'll be missing out on "distributed processing" capability. Will I ever regret that Smile

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  • Thu, May 13 2010 4:32 AM In reply to

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    Re: GPU Summary Proposal: MC5 Software and WIN7 64 Bit

    Thanks Dennis,

    Great post as it puts my mind to ease as i'm building a system around the FX1800. Thanks it answers a lot of questions I had.

     

     

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  • Thu, May 13 2010 4:25 PM In reply to

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    Re: GPU Summary Proposal: MC5 Software and WIN7 64 Bit

    AS I look at Video Card options I want a dual screen set up and was wondering about the 1800. It has 1 DVI output and it looks as if it has 2 other ports 1 being HDMI. Confused as where to go to get additional info on actual set up for MC and this card for dual screen. If you have this card and are using with MC are you using dual screens? If so how (HDMI to DVI convertor) can you playback to a HDTV though HDMI? What are the possibilities? Any direction would be helpful just point me the right way.....Edd

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  • Thu, May 13 2010 4:40 PM In reply to

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    Re: GPU Summary Proposal: MC5 Software and WIN7 64 Bit

    smithe1:

    AS I look at Video Card options I want a dual screen set up and was wondering about the 1800. It has 1 DVI output

    Mine has two, that goes for all the other 1800 cards also

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  • Thu, May 13 2010 5:53 PM In reply to

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    Re: GPU Summary Proposal: MC5 Software and WIN7 64 Bit

    Dan and Joey, I spent a few hours poking around internet and Avid site but did not find definitive info to help with decision between FX1800 and FX3800.  I don't want to spend more money for FX3800 if MC5 software can't use the extra features of FX3800.  On the other hand, if the FX3800 will gain the "blazing speed" often touted in marketing blurbs, then it would be worth it. I am going to try another approach to see if we can get some clear answers.

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  • Fri, May 14 2010 4:05 PM In reply to

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    Re: GPU Summary Proposal: MC5 Software and WIN7 64 Bit

    Here is a shot from the Nvidea site is this the wrong card? It looks to have 1 DVI slot and is simular to the other cards I have seen.

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  • Fri, May 14 2010 5:17 PM In reply to

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    Re: GPU Summary Proposal: MC5 Software and WIN7 64 Bit

    Looking at the ports and the words it has "dual DVI" (ie 2)  and one VGA or analog connecter. Ony two of the three can be operational at any time.

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  • Fri, May 14 2010 5:55 PM In reply to

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    Re: GPU Summary Proposal: MC5 Software and WIN7 64 Bit

    smithe1:

    Here is a shot from the Nvidea site is this the wrong card? It looks to have 1 DVI slot and is simular to the other cards I have seen.

    The FX1800 specifications (http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_fx_1800_us.html) indicate two digital outputs.

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  • Sat, May 15 2010 8:31 AM In reply to

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    Re: GPU Summary Proposal: MC5 Software and WIN7 64 Bit

    smithe1:

    Here is a shot from the Nvidea site is this the wrong card? It looks to have 1 DVI slot and is simular to the other cards I have seen.

     

    I recieved a (short) cable with my HD Quadro FX 1800, fitting into the other 2 slot and on the otherside a DVI plug.So if you have a monitor with DVI input you can use a normal DVI cable to connect.

    I have connect 2 monitors and with Liquid it works, did not try it with MC but that should work also in my opinion.

    Henk

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  • Sat, May 15 2010 1:56 PM In reply to

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    Re: GPU Summary Proposal: MC5 Software and WIN7 64 Bit

    DVI and HDMI can be connected via adaptor, HDMI includes bi-directional communication for things as resolution auto setting and content protection. HDMI also allows audio to pass through that single cable.

    I have not checked whether the 1800 is HDCP compliant. If it is not, it may not be possible to play out certain media (like commercial BD Disks) from the PC.

    The lower Quadro cards are not exactly cutting edge tech, which may cause me to lean away. So far, my x4850 works well enough for this (Liquid intended) / MC pc build.

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  • Mon, May 17 2010 5:43 PM In reply to

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    Re: GPU Summary Proposal: MC5 Software and WIN7 64 Bit

    My desktop (Liquid) currently has a  Radeon 4850/1GB GPU. For a dual-boot system (Liquid/MC), should I try keeping this GPU or should I plan for a Quadro 1800 without even thinking about trying the 4850? I don't want to ruin the current Liquid perf/stability, and yet I don't want to invest 500 € or so in a piece of HW that may not be the smartest choice for an "old-but-decent" box...

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