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  • Sun, Dec 4 2005 5:05 AM In reply to

    • markle77074
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    Re: The working recipe to get from HDV to DVD

    Write the recipe.

     

     

    I wrote one above and it produces stunningly sharp images....

    the problem is the framerate is too slow.

     

    and Marianna and Tim of avid told me to convert the project in the project tab.

     

    My camera is the JVC HD-10  it makes a 720 30 p signal.

    Once you start a project in this mode, I haven't seen a method to convert it.

    I have an HP XW-8400 with a quadcore. Windows XP 32. Two Gigs of ram. I just upgraded to Media Composer 3.0.5 I have an Ilok and the BINR plug in. [view my complete system specs]
  • Sun, Dec 4 2005 5:21 AM In reply to

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    Re: The working recipe to get from HDV to DVD

    Once a project has been started in 720  30p this option is no longer available.

     

    I repeat..

    Write your complete recipe!!!!

    I have an HP XW-8400 with a quadcore. Windows XP 32. Two Gigs of ram. I just upgraded to Media Composer 3.0.5 I have an Ilok and the BINR plug in. [view my complete system specs]
  • Sun, Dec 4 2005 5:33 AM In reply to

    Re: The working recipe to get from HDV to DVD

    I'm guessing that the 29.97 vs 30 issue is the key here.  It doesn't appear to me that AVID really is supporting the JVC camera fully yet.  The JVC clearly wants to work at 30 and there is no option for that in Express Pro HD.  Somehow that discrepancy may be getting into your DVD conversion causing frame rate errors.

    We used one of the the JY-HD10U cameras when they first came out and had to jump through some major hoops to get it to transfer to HDCAM 1080i at 59.94.   We finally had to send the tapes and the camera to New York where they transcoded the tapes using a Snell and Willcox converter that not only changed it from 720p to 1080i but also changed the Frame Rate.

    The Sony HDV cameras have had no issues at all and we used them in combined timelines with DV material and have an inexpensive Miranda converter to bump them to HDCAM tape if needed.  There are no frame rate complications but that's because it operates at a compatible rate with the other Sony gear to begin with.

    BTW, the Sony HDV material bumped to HDCAM is stunning as well.

    In any case, until AVID supports 30, you may have to look elsewhere for your editing solution.



  • Sun, Dec 4 2005 5:41 AM In reply to

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    Re: The working recipe to get from HDV to DVD

    My avid imports and edits the JVC just fine.

    It exports too.

    and my recipe makes a very sharp DVD....the frame rate is wrong.

     

     

    PLEASE

     

    write your DETAILED recipe

    I have an HP XW-8400 with a quadcore. Windows XP 32. Two Gigs of ram. I just upgraded to Media Composer 3.0.5 I have an Ilok and the BINR plug in. [view my complete system specs]
  • Sun, Dec 4 2005 5:59 AM In reply to

    Re: The working recipe to get from HDV to DVD

    What setting are you using for your project when you use the JVC?  I know the pictures look good.  The frame rate is the wild card.  We were able to view the JVC output uprezzing to 1080 with a simple converter but when we tried to record it we encountered trouble with the frame rate discrepancy.

    As for my recipe, it's a standard export of either QT ref or Movie to Procoder Express from any timeline at any project setting I can create in Express Pro but it appears that the camera operating at 30 while the AVID is expecting something slightly different may be causing your issue.  I'll give it a look Monday when I get in to the office and can get my hands on our JVC.

    Do you by any chance have access to Procoder or Procoder Express?  The input setting will tell you what they think the file's frame rate is.  Squeeze may do the same. 

  • Sun, Dec 4 2005 6:15 AM In reply to

    Re: The working recipe to get from HDV to DVD

    Also, how does your QT  movie look when you play it before it goes in to Squeeze?
  • Sun, Dec 4 2005 7:23 AM In reply to

    • Scott Carnegie
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    Re: The working recipe to get from HDV to DVD

    Check this new post I made on getting it to work.

    http://www.avid.com/exchange/forums/23232/ShowPost.aspx

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  • Tue, Dec 6 2005 1:34 AM In reply to

    Re: The working recipe to get from HDV to DVD

    Brought the JVC home tonight and made a DVD.  Works just fine.  here's how:

    Export your project QT movie, Use Avid codec, 864x486, Size to Fit, 16:9 square pixel, 601/709,  custom, AVID DV codec, millions of colors, Quality best, frame rate 29.97.  It's going to take awhile.... about 4 to 1.

    Open Procoder Express, open file, set to Bottom Field in input settings, Use the wizard to go through the DVD settings, DVD, NTSC, Elementary streams for DVD authoring, Constant bitrate, 60 minutes, optimize for quality, set the file save location and open advanced output settings.  Set interlacing to top field, aspect ratio to 16:9, use Closed GOPS, Intra DC precision to 10.  Convert.

    Open DVD lab, import your files and make a DVD.  Set the project properties Menu Slideshow aspect to 16:9 widescreen.  Compile and burn. 

    Yes, its Standard Definition.  looks good though with smooth motion.  enjoy.











  • Tue, Dec 6 2005 1:52 AM In reply to

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    Re: The working recipe to get from HDV to DVD

     "simple beyond words..."

                           - rlmartindale

    thanks for taking the time to experiment and share.

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  • Tue, Dec 6 2005 2:06 AM In reply to

    Re: The working recipe to get from HDV to DVD

    Actually, theres not much different here using this same software set from a 4:3 project using NTSC footage except being careful about the aspect ratio.  The biggest deal was finding an export that worked with HDV.  That took about 5 minutes.  The rest is standard practice.

    BTW, you can buy Procoder Express and DVD lab for less than $200.

  • Tue, Dec 6 2005 4:26 AM In reply to

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    Re: The working recipe to get from HDV to DVD

     rlmartindale wrote:
    It's going to take awhile.... about 4 to 1.

    It's about 2:1 if you change the project type to NTSC first and export a standard frame, see my post above.

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  • Tue, Dec 6 2005 4:37 AM In reply to

    Re: The working recipe to get from HDV to DVD

    If you start with the JVC camera you have to import using 720p 29.97.  There is no other format availaible for the project.  The Sony camera comes in 1080i 59.94 and allows you to change the format as you describe.
  • Mon, Mar 17 2008 7:13 PM In reply to

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    Re: The working recipe to get from HDV to DVD

     I have a 26 min piece that was shot with a Sony HVR/Z1U Camera  in 1080i letterbox

    My system is Express Pro 5.6   I believe it was your format that enabled me to get a good quality DVD quicktime Movie.  However I accidently deleated the Export specs and have been unable to reproduce those good results  I get alot of video chatter and loss of color.

    I remenber that it was avid codec RGB Botton but thats all. I am unable to open your above post so am wondering if you could please give those specs again in detail      

    Thank you for your time and consideration                                      DVDR

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