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  • Fri, Nov 13 2009 4:27 PM

    • Phil0009
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    P2 Media partially Offline (Link to AMA when span over multiple Cards)

    Hello,

    there have been some discussions about similar problems in this forum, but none really hit my case - and none offered a soultion for this.

    Problem:

    I have recorded very long interviews on a Panasonic HVX-200. To be able to do so, the HVX comes with two card-slots, so you can exchange cards while keep shooting. Some of these Interview-Passages spanned over 3 or more Cards. I have copied all Cards to external Harddiscs.

    When i want to import them into Avid MediaComposer 4.0.2 i have two options:

    1. Import to P2 and then Import>Media.  Which would mean copying the files again - thus removing even the last benefit of recording to cards: the time-factor. That's obviously the reason why AVID came up with option No.2.

    2. Link to AMA Volume. This works quiet well as long - as files don't span over more than 2 Cards. If they do, AVID seems not to be able to handle the files correctly: Right where 3rd card starts the clip goes "Media Offline".

    I am not talking about different clips where some are working an others don't. I am talking about one clip that goes "Media Offline" right in the middle (or the last third, or whereever the 3rd card started).

     

    Questions:

    Is there a solution for this? Or is the only way to get around this the time- and Harddisk-consuming Import>P2 and Import>Media?

     

    Thanks in advance,

    Phil

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  • Fri, Nov 30 2018 11:51 PM In reply to

    • pajarita
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    Re: P2 Media partially Offline (Link to AMA when span over multiple Cards)

    Hi Phil, I have the same problem, except P2 Import results in an error, and now the clips appear to be corrupted.

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  • Sat, Dec 1 2018 12:16 AM In reply to

    Re: P2 Media partially Offline (Link to AMA when span over multiple Cards)

    Phil0009:

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  • Sat, Dec 1 2018 3:38 AM In reply to

    • pajarita
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    Re: P2 Media partially Offline (Link to AMA when span over multiple Cards)

    Did you ever figure what happened with the issue of your first post?  You brought the P2 in with AMA, and the last third of it was "media offline"?  I had the same thing happen.  Except all my footage had come in, by import P2, years earlier on MC7.0.4.  But now with MC8.6.3, Import P2 was giving me trouble about this being or not being a media bin.  So I learned to AMA link and transcode-- and half my clip was GONE.

    I was only able to access that footage again by locating a version of the clip I had made earlier when I consolidated a sequence.  The original clip itself now appears to be corrupted, as is its twin backup on a different external drive. Horror.

    And now an entire interview won't come in by AMA link or by Import P2-- Avid crashes with import P2 on that one.  I don't want to even check what happens with its backup twin.

    I'm going to try just bringing the mxf files from the P2 Contents file directly into an Avid MediaFiles bin, both visual and audio, and hope for the best.  Or else this irreplaceable footage is lost for good. 

    Something seems to have gone very wrong with Avid and P2, but not in 100% of clips, just the odd one or two.  Not necessarily the longer clips have trouble-- the first one was 30 minutes.  Wish I could have stayed with MC7.0.4, but it wouldn't work with a higher OS and I couldn't downgrade the OS on a new computer...

     

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  • Tue, Dec 4 2018 5:15 PM In reply to

    • DStone
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    Re: P2 Media partially Offline (Link to AMA when span over multiple Cards)

    In general, you should always copy media from cards to a hard drive and link or import from there. While you can go directly from cards into MC, you risk things getting corrupted or deleted. A simple copy operation in Windows (or on the Mac) shouldn't ever corrupt the media (unless it was corrupted to begin with, then all bets are off).

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    Dave S.

  • Tue, Dec 4 2018 7:25 PM In reply to

    • pajarita
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    Re: P2 Media partially Offline (Link to AMA when span over multiple Cards)

    I'm sorry, I assumed that goes without saying.  Of course my P2 card media was copied to a hard drive the same day of shooting-- to two different external drives, which were kept in two different locations over the years.

    When I first imported the media into Avid in 2014, I was using MC7.0.4, and it came in fine with Import P2.  I used several minutes of the last section of this particular clip in my rough cut, and then in my fine cut in MC8.6.3.

    But when it came time to bring in the higher-res version from the original external drive, and transcode it to DNXHD 175 for color correction-- this same clip was missing the last half.  The half I'd been able to use earlier.

    Import P2 was giving me trouble about media bin, I forget the wording.  So I learned to link using source browser in MC8.6.3, and then transcode the link.  But the second half was missing.

    And it was missing from both copies of the original media, on both external drives that had been kept in separate places all this time.  MIssing from exactly the same place on.

    It's still missing from the original media.  Luckily, I'd decomposed and consolidated the sequence before going online, so I have what I had, and I can use it for online work-- but not from the original file.

    Now I'm very nervous about bringing any new media into Avid from P2.  I'm nervous about any upgrading to new MC versions.  I think what I'll do for the next three films is link/transcode to online res/ and keep a copy of that transcode on an external drive untouched.  And see what I actually do have, what's not corrupted, before I decide whether to continue work on the film...  Feeling Legacy!!

    Macbook Pro, OSX 10.11.6, 2.8 Ghz Intel core i7, 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Avid MC8.6.3 [view my complete system specs]

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