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  • Wed, Sep 9 2009 6:15 PM

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    Bypass or Turn Off Effects Universally for RT Editing?

    Is there a way to universally bypass all effects placed on clips in a timeline (track or all tracks)?

     

    We are re-editing what we thought was a near final version of a piece.  They have multiple effects placed on each clips (i.e. film grain, static, Sapphire effects, BCC, etc).  The length of the piece is to be extended so many of the effected shots needed to be extended, slid, trimmed, etc.  Doing this causes the clips to go unrendered (blue dot) and it becomes difficult to edit frame accurately.

    Even if you use the effects window to bypass an effect, it only allows you to look at that clip within the sequence monitor for that one clip.  Once played in the timeline, the clip remains "unrendered" and cannot be edited in real time.

    The only solution I see currently is to REMOVE all these effects, make my edits, and then go back and restack and apply effects individually.

     

    ...I was hoping for a better way.  Any suggestions?  How can I just watch my timeline clean and un-effected?

     

    Thanks!

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  • Wed, Sep 9 2009 6:26 PM In reply to

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    Re: Bypass or Turn Off Effects Universally for RT Editing?

    Not sure whether or not this still works, but there (at least) USED to be a console command "disable3D" and "enable3D".

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  • Wed, Sep 9 2009 6:33 PM In reply to

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    Re: Bypass or Turn Off Effects Universally for RT Editing?

    Thanks Larry, that did not seem to work though.  I entered in the console command and it said it would turn off 3d on the next application launch.  After launching the effects all still played and clips with unrendered effects played black.

     

    Another way to look at this would be that I would be nice if there were an option for the Avid to play clips normally if there is an unrendered effect on it and just leave the RED LINE "needs render" marks in the timeline.   That way you could keep working, play for the client (for instance) and never have the video just go black.

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    Re: Bypass or Turn Off Effects Universally for RT Editing?

    When I needed to do this, I would just dupe the sequence, lasso from left to right and delete all the transition effects and then lasso from right to left (I reserve the right to have these backwards) and then delete the segment effects.

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    Re: Bypass or Turn Off Effects Universally for RT Editing?

    Shot in the dark:  What happens when you turn off your Nitris, and run in Software-only mode?

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  • Thu, Sep 10 2009 8:05 AM In reply to

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    Re: Bypass or Turn Off Effects Universally for RT Editing?

    I'll try that... I'd imagine it will just show unrendered FX.

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    Re: Bypass or Turn Off Effects Universally for RT Editing?

    Not sure whether or not this still works, but there (at least) USED to be a console command "disable3D" and "enable3D".

    That console command disabled or enabled 3D effects permanently.  To temporarily disable 3D fx hold the F plus X keys down on launching composer software.  Both steps were used to test whether the FX hardware was functioning normally. With Adrenaline/Nitris there are no fx cards snd all fx are either conditionally rendered ( green dot) or require rendering (blue dot)

  • Thu, Sep 10 2009 9:24 PM In reply to

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    Re: Bypass or Turn Off Effects Universally for RT Editing?

    Nothing has worked so far, but I found what appears to be a workaround (and new workflow, that actually needs to be done from the start).

    So far, it appears that I can apply the effect to a clip sized SPLIT of the FILLER above the video track.  This way I can ignore the filler/FX track when doing the editing and trimming.

    I'm not sure if this will work universally to all clips, but for the static and black and white stuff it works fine so far.  I guess if the effect passes the filler through as alpha, I'm OK, but if it effects "black" then that won't work.

     

    I'm also not sure how this will affect effects that need to be stacked.  This doesn't really save me on this project from having to re-apply effects, and it adds some extra steps in lining up the effects track with the video below it... It also causes some complications during dissolves and/or transitions... but it seems to be the best method I can find so far.

     

    Ideally, Avid would add a feature that could be selected to IGNORE/BYPASS all clip effects which could be turned on/off at the leisure of the editor.

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