Hello

recently i have buy on ebay PowerMac 9600/350 sold as Avid workstation

Have recived the set with some HW cards inside:

1) audio card (cant remember the name , has a scsi connector to wire 442 audio box)

2) UL3D scsi card

3) 0030-00019-02 AVBV with SDI Top Card

4) 0870-00169-03 Janus/Gasket 

Then was includes 442 and Video external box , lots cables and 2 dongles

the dongles dump at botom of this message

I guess the 2 dongles not working with this hardware i bought , someone can pls clear

what model is this HW confirguration? 9000 or 1000?

What software versions i can install? i have found MC7.1 on ebay but it shutdown with message no valid

dongle licenses.

thanks

Dump for key #dongle1
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Avid System ID: ***** 
Product: Media Composer
Model: Avid Xpress
Version: 0.0.x (0)
Extra Options:
AVR 3s
4 Video Tracks
AVR 75
Xpress Pro Effects
Xpress Fast Render Effects
Xpress RealTime Play Effects
AVR 77
----------------------
Complete List:
Timeline/pict
bins/etc
+ AVR 3s
Digitize Window
Edit Window
Deck control
AVR 12 *
Full Rate Only
Pre-Vis-1 Title Tool
+ 4 Video Tracks
Picture-In-Picture Effect *
opt_PreVis_BC2
No AutoSync
TC Base
8 Audio Tracks
+ AVR 75
+ Xpress Pro Effects
MCX UI
AVR 71
MCX base effects
+ Xpress Fast Render Effects
+ Xpress RealTime Play Effects
+ AVR 77
Items marked with "+" are extra options. All others are standard to the model.


Dump for key #dongle2
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Avid System ID: **** 
Product: Media Composer
Model: Model 1000
Version: 0.0.x (0)
Extra Options:
No AutoSync
----------------------
Complete List:
Enhanced Audio (2n2/CD)
Timeline/pict bins/etc
AVR 3s
Digitize Window
Edit Window
Deck control
Dissolves only
AVR 70
AVR 26
Full Rate Only
Pre-Vis-1
Visual Effects
Transitional Vis Effects
Programmable Vis Effects
Title Tool
8 Video Tracks
AVR 25
+ No AutoSync
TC Base Real
Time Color Correction
Real Time Dissolves/Wipes
Real Time 2D
DVE Real Time Titles
AVR 75
Items marked with "+" are extra options. All others are standard to the model.

This is not a Media Composer system. It is an old Avid Xpress system. They were two different products so that's the software you will need to load.

One of the 2 systems is a Media Composer.  The 2nd dongle dump includes ...

Product: Media Composer
Model: Model 1000

Your dumps both report the version as: 

Version: 0.0.x (0)

This might indicate the dongles are defective.  Aer you running the Dongle Dumper on the system you bought?

Thanks for all replies

Yes i have used the dongle dumper application  included in the MC7.1  i have bought

ebay dont know if it give correct informations about dongles details.

so if this HW is an expres someone can tell me more details please , i am hobbist and new to avid systems

since its very old more than 10 years was very cheaper , so i need to know what software and wich version i need

make working this system with those dongles , wich the best in quality among the 2? still for sale the soft i need?

You've got quite a dinosaur there.  I don't know how much luck you'll have finding the right software version to work and even if you did the limitations of the old software would make it a bear to use.  No HD, no DV, no mixing of resolutions in the Timeline, depending on exactly how old it is - it may not even have a built in Title Tool. 

If you're a hobbyist and new to Avid, this software/hardware combo may not be your best option as an introduction to the Avid editing world.

Warning - Car Analogy:

It would be like if you just got your licensce and found a 1946 Ford that needed an engine rebuild.  If you're not intimately familiar with all the components and mechanically inclined, you may find yourself more frustrated with your new toy than actually using it.  Whereas - spending a little money to get a newer vehicle with fewer issues will help get you on the road a lot quicker.

I know Kenton , sure am new to this and thats why am here asking to expert

..its very old system but enough for my needed because willing to use it only for some video analogic cut and paid everything just '90 euro'

so i know alredy cant expect that much , i just need for a simple system but want at output have same quality of input.

if you know some links where i can learn about old systems please post it.

By the time Avid supported the PMAC 9600, Avid also supported Mac OS 7.6.1, 8.0, 8.1, 8.5.1 or 8.6 with MC software versions 7.x.  The most stable OS was 8.1.  OS 8.5.1 and 8.6 were ram hogs, needed 40mb ram just to run itself.  Avid officially supports only up to 32mb DIMMs memory chips in the 9600 and with a total of 12 memory slots in the CPU the total ram supported is only 384 mbs tops.  You can most likely find Mac OS software on the web.  There are web sites that have old or vintage software to download, often times free of charge.  With only 8 tracks of audio available, BLKDOG is right, seems as if you have the dongle for a MC Xpress.  The audio board was called Amadeus (Mozart).  The 9600, while no speed merchant, was a very reliable box.  Kudos to Apple for the wonderful clamshell design, making it very easy to open and replace boards, add Ram, etc. (Apple had to do something to redeem itself after the PMAC 9500 which forced you to literally remove the motherboard from the chassis in order to add ram, etc).  Since the OS loads a plethora of printer inits and monitor inits, make sure you add a folder to the systems folder calling it disabled extensions and streamline the OS extensions as much as possible.  Limit too the number of active fonts to no more than 120ish.  As long as you are not asking too much of the system (and from you state above it seems as if you are not), its a great system as long as the hardware boards work.