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  • Wed, Jul 29 2009 3:03 PM

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    Does the Link to AMA works with the RED Camera?

    Hi everyone. I was wondering if the Link to AMA works with the RED Camera (R3D files or QuickTime ref.)?

    Thanks in advance.

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  • Wed, Jul 29 2009 3:27 PM In reply to

    Re: Does the Link to AMA works with the RED Camera?

    Currently only P2 & XDCAM.  We are hopeful for more file formats to be added.

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  • Wed, Jul 29 2009 4:16 PM In reply to

    Re: Does the Link to AMA works with the RED Camera?

    birck:
    I was wondering if the Link to AMA works with the RED Camera (R3D files or QuickTime ref.)

    For that, there's MetaFuze 2.0 now (released yesterday): http://www.avid.com/metafuze.

    As far as I can tell, the difference is that AMA is meant to work with formats and codecs that the Avid can handle natively. Since the R3D's have such a different size and aspect ratio (up to 4096x2048) than "regular" video formats, as well as the need to use a colorspace conversion (Redspace to Rec709), it's not something that AMA may easily work with. I'd think.

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  • Wed, Jul 29 2009 7:46 PM In reply to

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    Re: Does the Link to AMA works with the RED Camera?

    I see... thanks for the quick reply. I guess we will have to work with METAFuze!

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  • Wed, Jul 29 2009 8:15 PM In reply to

    Re: Does the Link to AMA works with the RED Camera?

    Be sure to check out the new MetaFuze forum on this site.

    MetaFuze 2 allows you to scan one or more selectable folders for R3D files, choose a transcode type, batch change parameters (like scaling quality, destination codec flavor, burnin timecodes and source tape names, Project names, etc) and then it is able to use all available cores on your machine (and apparently even those on a remote machine) to transcode the R3D into DNxHD Avid MXF MediaFiles, whcih you can drag straight into your mediafiles folders, and access from the Media Tool (or you can have MetaFuze create you an ALE for the transcoded clips).

    Like everything around the Red (perhaps with the exception of the BaseLight BLT station), you'll be looking at render times, but MetaFuze is a very decent option. I think it takes me around 5-6 hours to transcode 100GB worth of dailies into DNxHD36, using a dual-dual-core machine.

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  • Thu, Sep 3 2009 4:12 PM In reply to

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    Re: Does the Link to AMA works with the RED Camera?

    Wouldn't it be possible to link with AMA to the proxy files? For offline work and test-edit on location, that is the way to go. If AMA can link to the HD proxies, then we can edit offline with timecode and metadata, right?
    All we need is that someone creates that possibility.

    As for other formats, why wouldn't it be possible to edit a DV PAL 25p with AMA? P2 Media can still be edited right off the card due to it's MXF fileformat, so AMA doesn't change much.

    AMA is a great step twords the thing that FCP users always complain about Avid; enable you to work right off a file without any transcoding. I think it's a major priority that AMA recieves the greatest attention. File based workflow is the future and FCP is ahead of Avid at this.

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  • Wed, Sep 9 2009 9:59 PM In reply to

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    Re: Does the Link to AMA works with the RED Camera?

    Anybody has any news or knows anything? Ama seems like something no one talks about?

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  • Sun, Nov 1 2009 3:54 PM In reply to

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    Re: Does the Link to AMA works with the RED Camera?

    AMA is a little scary because it's new and less stable. It's still pretty neat and overal has worked better than I expected.

     

    I don't see it as being too much of a stretch to work with r3d files using AMA. My understanding is that the wavelet codec makes it relatively quick and easy to pull lower resolutions out of the 4K file in real time. It could adaptively drop the debayer quality to the project format (half for 1080, quarter for SD, eighth for SD yellow) and then pad the video when added to a sequence. Yes it would be a little messy and hard on the computer, and no you couldn't ever work in the right frame size, but it would be a great option to have. This would be particularly welcome as a competitor to the FCP workflow using log and transfer to make QT references.

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  • Sun, Nov 1 2009 5:15 PM In reply to

    Re: Does the Link to AMA works with the RED Camera?

    Glans:
    Ama seems like something no one talks about?
    Huh? Really? I hear and read about people using it al the time. Used it myself only once, and it just worked as advertised, instantly.

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