...on DS10 doesn't work as 7.6 did.

Fault or Feature?

Previously (i.e. on v7.6) if you just wanted the video from a clip 
containing both video and audio to end up on the timeline
you just "disabled" the source audio...



and then it didn't matter if you used the Overwrite-button,
the shortcut B or dragged and dropped the the selected
piece to the timeline. No audio was ever put on any
of the audiotracks.

With version 10, using the Overwrite-button or the shortcut B
gives the same behaviour, but dragging a clip to the timeline
always gives you a new audio-clip on the timeline whether you
want it or not.

Even of you un-check the "Live-track" checkmark for every
audiotrack on the timeline a "drag 'n drop" will create a
new audio-track and put the audio on that.

And this is not the way v7.6 behaves.

So, fault or feature?

//mike

The Devs are aware of this change. It also annoys me.

I miss the feature on DS 4.0 where you just click on the tracks you want overwritten... and voila!

You get what you need when you want it. No extras. :D

I agree, this "feature" on DS10 needs to be rectified, I hope .

Marpan, I'm not sure we mean the same thing,
see picture below, but if we do, yeah it was
immensely missed when it disappeared.

And I think that function still was there in v5, because
this screen-grab is from the v5 user guide.

But the "track selection" in this picture only shows the 
option to change what's going to a video-track.
Probably because this "Getting started"-clip only
contained video.  Normally a clip containing both
video and audio would show "v1" and "a1" on the
"source side".

And this might not seem as a big thing to groan about
and it probably wouldn't be, if one kept using just 2 to 3
layers or something. But when you end up with 15-20
layers and have to race (Media Composer vertically wise)
up and down the timeline just to hit the right destination
track. Well, then it gets tiresome compared to when you
just (as i v4, v5) choose the destination tracks in a
couple of list boxes.

And what was disappointing at the time, when the change
to the Media Composer way of track selecting was made, 
was that there was no "backwards-compability-option" to
use the old style of track selection. Like we don't care
about the old users, they have to adapt, "Objection overruled".

And this is one thing that seem to have stuck in my mind
from the diifferent Discreet demo's of Flame, Flint or Smoke
I've been to these last years. They seem to have cared
for there old user-base and kept a lot of the ways of working
in the old way while they also have introduced new ways
of working.

Finally, another thing I used to miss from that period was
the LARGE trimview window that by default appeared on the
left sceen. You could use the (large) trimview while still
retaining the source/record view.

Probably wouldn't make much sence nowadays when working
with one monitor, but then it did, I think.

//mike

hello mike,

Yes, that's the same track selector i miss from the earlier versions-  just click on the track(s) you want and it will be done, specifically vers 4 ( this is the only version i am used to before v10) so probably it will just be a matter of time before i get used to the new workarounds. So, from time to time i have to delete an unnecessary track created by the insert. 

I admit there's still lots of feature i have to master and smoothen my workflow. I am wondering if there are comprehensive tutorials and shortcuts lying about somewhere.

best regards,

Mario

Dubai

This Learning Collection website can still be usefull:

http://aviddssupport2.avid.com/DS2/right/document/LearnColl/default.htm

It's on the Avid DS Support Center, by the way...

http://www.avid.com/ds/support

Finally, another thing I used to miss from that period was
the LARGE trimview window that by default appeared on the
left sceen. You could use the (large) trimview while still
retaining the source/record view.

So why not add it in? Go to "Layout - Edit Layout" and add it to the left side of your monitor. Right click and "set view - single instance views - trim".

Easy right?