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  • Sun, Feb 8 2009 3:36 AM

    How do I overlay a 16:9 mask effect over an entire video track?

    Hi everyone,

    Learning Media Composer and had a quick question. If I want to overlay a 16:9 mask over an entire video track of 4:3 footage, how do I go about doing that? I don't want to have to set each clip in the timeline separately.Is there a way to select all of the tracks?

     

    Also, for footage that needs to be moved up or down to adjust to the mask, what additional effect would I use?

     

    Thank you.

  • Sun, Feb 8 2009 3:54 AM In reply to

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    Re: How do I overlay a 16:9 mask effect over an entire video track?

    Several ways, but a quickie is make a cg with a black bar on top and bottom.  Then just lay it down multiple times, on a track higher than your current video.

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  • Sun, Feb 8 2009 4:20 AM In reply to

    Re: How do I overlay a 16:9 mask effect over an entire video track?

    Add a video layer above the layer you have and drop a mask effect on that filler track. Adjust the mask as desired. On some versions, you may need to place an add edit at the beginning and end of the filler track.

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  • Sun, Feb 8 2009 9:29 AM In reply to

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    Re: How do I overlay a 16:9 mask effect over an entire video track?

    MikePoglitsch:

    Several ways, but a quickie is make a cg with a black bar on top and bottom.  Then just lay it down multiple times, on a track higher than your current video.

    I don't understand why you would do this, and how you can call it a 'quickie' in comparison to using the 16:9 mask in the effects pallette, which is already 'made' and will fit to any length, no need to lay it down multiple times.

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  • Sun, Feb 8 2009 9:49 AM In reply to

    Re: How do I overlay a 16:9 mask effect over an entire video track?

    Hi,

    vanexel711:
    If I want to overlay a 16:9 mask over an entire video track of 4:3 footage, how do I go about doing that?

    Like Larry & siencs said, add a new video track and drop a 16:9 mask on it.

    vanexel711:
    Also, for footage that needs to be moved up or down to adjust to the mask, what additional effect would I use?
     

    Drop a resize effect on any clips that need to be moved up or down, and then adjust accordingly.

    good luck,
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  • Sun, Feb 8 2009 2:39 PM In reply to

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    Re: How do I overlay a 16:9 mask effect over an entire video track?

    Because, Im not sitting in front of my Avid and couldnt remember the exact name of the 16:9 mask.  I wanted to get a quick answer to the question.  Avid cg's on my system default at 2 mins, thats why you would relay the cg.  But I do agree, the 16:9 mask is a better way to go.

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  • Sun, Feb 8 2009 3:29 PM In reply to

    Re: How do I overlay a 16:9 mask effect over an entire video track?

    The bigger question is whether you're going to be satisfied lopping off the top and bottom of the 4:3 image when you put that mask on it?

    If your intention is to reformat the 4:3 footage into a 16:9 space, you could just drop the Reformat effect on a new Filler track.

     

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  • Sun, Feb 8 2009 4:22 PM In reply to

    Re: How do I overlay a 16:9 mask effect over an entire video track?

    And keep in mind that if the footage is 4:3 anamorphic (too tall and too skinny), the 16:9 reformat effect will create a letterboxed image with proper proportions. However, if the 4:3 is NTSC normal, the 16:9 reformat effect will distort the proportions, yielding a letterboxed image that is too short and too fat. In that case, you're better off using the standard mask effect which crops the image, and a re-size effect underneath to reposition the image in the letterbox frame created by the mask effect, if necessary.

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  • Mon, Feb 9 2009 2:27 AM In reply to

    Re: How do I overlay a 16:9 mask effect over an entire video track?

    Thank you all for your advice. It is really appreciated.

  • Sun, Sep 17 2017 6:19 PM In reply to

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    Re: How do I overlay a 16:9 mask effect over an entire video track?

    siencs:

    MikePoglitsch:

    Several ways, but a quickie is make a cg with a black bar on top and bottom.  Then just lay it down multiple times, on a track higher than your current video.

    I don't understand why you would do this, and how you can call it a 'quickie' in comparison to using the 16:9 mask in the effects pallette, which is already 'made' and will fit to any length, no need to lay it down multiple times.

    I'm trying to figure out what you mean by "no need to lay it down multiple times." Is there a way to place a mask on a timeline I'm still working on so, as I add clips to the timeline, the mask applies to the clips I add, and I don't have to keep lengthening the mask? 

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    Re: How do I overlay a 16:9 mask effect over an entire video track?

    if you are working with a fairly recent version of mc,

    under the format tab, you'll find mask margins, with a list of preset as a pulldown.

    this will affect the whole timeline.

     

    that simple!


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  • Wed, Sep 20 2017 12:55 PM In reply to

    Re: How do I overlay a 16:9 mask effect over an entire video track?

    If, as I suspect, you're asking a different qustion, Avid doesn't allow you to extend filler track further than actual material.

    The way around that is to add material at the end of your timeline and move it as far as you need to create a long timeline. You can then extend your filler track with mask to the end, (on V2 for instance) and cut your shots underneath that on V1.

    Is that the correct interpretation to your question?

     

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    Re: How do I overlay a 16:9 mask effect over an entire video track?

    Wow, blast from the past. I was responding to a poster who suggested creating a graphic mask and importing it and thus would have a fixed duration so it would need applying repeatedly while the letterbox or reformat effect can be extended to any duration.

     

    If you're wanting to apply it to a timeline that isn't complete then you'd either have to keep extending it or you can trim it out to an arbitrary duration ahead of your 'live' timeline.

     

    touviere's post above is a neater option if you have a recent version.

    Another option would be to apply a frameflex to the source files before cutting them in.

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    Re: How do I overlay a 16:9 mask effect over an entire video track?

    Juris Eksts:

    Avid doesn't allow you to extend filler track further than actual material.

    The way around that is to add material at the end of your timeline and move it as far as you need to create a long timeline.

     

     

    Once you've applied an effect to the filler track it no longer counts as filler though and you can extend the effect out to whatever duration you like.

     

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