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  • Tue, Sep 30 2008 12:42 PM

    • thoreld
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    Burn-out effect

     Hi

    We are editing on a Media Composer 3.0. 

     We are looking for a plug-in that simulates a brun out-transition (in fcp they have one called "too-much-too-soon") A transition that is a sort of kiss white, but where the transition is more like a film burn out (the lighter parts of the image burns out before the darker parts of the image). Preferably with a little glow too.

    Any tips on plug-ins that might be helpful?

    We have the boris continuum - but my editors haven`t found it there. Haven`t they looked closely enough? Or do I need plug-ins from another company?

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  • Tue, Sep 30 2008 12:45 PM In reply to

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    Re: Burn-out effect

    I used to do this with an RGB key key framed over time. Boris has a lot of glow effects that can also be key framed to do this.

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  • Tue, Sep 30 2008 1:17 PM In reply to

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    Re: Burn-out effect

     Yes the Boris fire filter has parameters that will create almost this exact effect. In the F/X version there was a preset effect in the library.

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  • Tue, Sep 30 2008 1:36 PM In reply to

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    Re: Burn-out effect

     bcc textured wipe is your friend, maybe add a little glow. there is a BCC burnt film transition but I think id doesn't have any influence from the video.

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  • Tue, Sep 30 2008 4:00 PM In reply to

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    Re: Burn-out effect

     I have tried with the glow-effect in bcc. But it seems I can`t add keyframes to it. Well, actually I can add the keyframes, but the values I set for one of the keyframes automatically applies for ALL the keyframes in this effect.

    I have made sure that there is just one "active"/highlighted keyframe when I do this. Is this a bug, or is it not possible to animate different values within the effect because it is a filter?

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    Re: Burn-out effect

     Yeah, that happened to me as well. Switch to advanced keyframe mode and you can get around that little problem.

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  • Tue, Sep 30 2008 4:22 PM In reply to

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    Re: Burn-out effect

     

    BLKDOG:

     Yeah, that happened to me as well. Switch to advanced keyframe mode and you can get around that little problem.

     Now I feel a little bit stupid; but how can I tell if I have switched to advanced keyframe mode?

    I have opened the effect editor, and I can set and move keyframes around. But I cant set different values for different keyframes. I have done this a thousand times in other standard Avid fx, but is there something about bcc I don`t know about?

  • Tue, Sep 30 2008 4:24 PM In reply to

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    Re: Burn-out effect

    You have to promote the effect editor to AKE. I believe it's the icon in the bottom of the window. Check out the help menu for more info on how to use it.

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  • Tue, Sep 30 2008 10:37 PM In reply to

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    Re: Burn-out effect

    BLKDOG:

    You have to promote the effect editor to AKE. I believe it's the icon in the bottom of the window. Check out the help menu for more info on how to use it.

     

    The problem is not that I change the values for all the parameters in the effect editor at one specific frame. The problem is that I can not change the values for all the parameters at one specific frame, without changing the values for ALL the keyframes in the entire effect.

    So I can not use the keyframes to animate the burn-out effect. Because when I change the values at a keyframe in the beginning of the clip (or in the middle, for that matter), ALL the other keyframes adapts the same values. So if I for instance want the value to be 0 at he beginning, 100 in the middle, and the 0 again at the end, I would normally make sure only the first keyframe is highlighted, set the value to 0, then make sure only the middle keyframe is highligted and set the value to 100.

    But BCC Glow won`t let me do that. When I change the keyframe in the middle to 100. The first and last keyframe automatically changes to 100 also. Even though they are not selected when I make the change. it is simply impossible to have more than one value for a certain parameter in the entire clip!

    So there is actually no difference if I set keyframes at all in the selected effect, because two keyframes can not have different values. I have never encountered this problem before, and I have been using AVID professionally on and off for 10 years now.

    I might have misunderstood you on AKE? Or there might be that BCC won´t let me do animation in a filter/effect that is not meant to be a transition? Or it might be a bug? I hope you might enlighten me on this, because using the BCC Glow like I normally would use an effect with keyframes would really solve my problem.

    Or even better. if someone could actually give me the name and manufacturer of a plug-in that has a burn-out effect/flash frame effect that I can just drag down between the two clips.I am editing a series
    of 10 hour long episodes where we want to use the flash frame VERY often. So I need it to be simple.

    Last year we did it with a "home-made" effect where we animated with keyframes and dissolves, but it was far to time-consuming

     

    heeelp, please!

     

  • Tue, Sep 30 2008 10:42 PM In reply to

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    Re: Burn-out effect

     Right click on a keyframe in the advanced keyframe window. I'm not at my Avid right now, but there are additional options there regarding application to keyframes that should have the one you're looking for.

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  • Wed, Oct 1 2008 12:47 AM In reply to

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    Re: Burn-out effect

    thoreld:
    if someone could actually give me the name and manufacturer of a plug-in that has a burn-out effect/flash frame effect that I can just drag down between the two clips.I am editing a series of 10 hour long episodes where we want to use the flash frame VERY often. So I need it to be simple.

    Once you get AKE working (or the right-click method Larry suggests) you can save your custom effect as a preset.  You can even drag the effect into a bin called "Quick Transitions" and apply it in the same way as you would a dissolve.  Can't get much quicker than that!

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