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  • Fri, Sep 12 2008 9:09 PM

    • lenivan
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    Help with MC to After Effects, then back to MC

    I'm somewhat of a newbie to MC so I need to know how to get a sequence from MC into After Effects, make my effects, then get it back to MC.

    I need step by step instructions here. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

  • Fri, Sep 12 2008 9:12 PM In reply to

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    Re: Help with MC to After Effects, then back to MC

    Are the apps on the same CPU? If so, just export a QT ref into AE, create a 720 x 486 (D1NTSC .9) project in AE and import the QT ref.

    If they are not on the same system, just export a self contained QT movie in the Codec of your choice.

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  • Fri, Sep 12 2008 9:22 PM In reply to

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    Re: Help with MC to After Effects, then back to MC

     Yes, the apps are on the same CPU. So exporting the QT covers getting it into AE. How do I get it into MC after I've done all my effects in AE?

  • Fri, Sep 12 2008 9:36 PM In reply to

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    Re: Help with MC to After Effects, then back to MC

    You export it out of AE using the Avid QT codecs (at least I do) and import back into Avid.

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  • Fri, Sep 12 2008 10:13 PM In reply to

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    Re: Help with MC to After Effects, then back to MC

     And for American NTSC be sure to stay even (lower) field first throughout the process.

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  • Fri, Sep 12 2008 10:17 PM In reply to

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    Re: Help with MC to After Effects, then back to MC

     I am not sure why, but i have found the video to be of higher quality when exporting as an animation rather then the Avid QT codecs.

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  • Fri, Sep 12 2008 10:21 PM In reply to

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    Re: Help with MC to After Effects, then back to MC

     Since both applications are on the same platform, you can export a QT Ref file which will point back to and use the actual Avid media files.

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  • Fri, Sep 12 2008 10:25 PM In reply to

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    Re: Help with MC to After Effects, then back to MC

     Wow...wish I'd a thought a 'dat! Wink or were you talkin 'bout going out of AE larry?

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  • Fri, Sep 12 2008 10:31 PM In reply to

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    Re: Help with MC to After Effects, then back to MC

     Hey Todd, there's something missing from his thread reply above that was below the jibberish in the email:

    "I am not sure why, but I have found the video to be ofhigher quality when exporting as an animation rather then the Avid QT codecs."

    Just remindin' him 'bout QT ref.

    {EDIT} OK, now it's there.

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  • Sat, Sep 13 2008 12:03 AM In reply to

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    Re: Help with MC to After Effects, then back to MC

    I know this is a stupid question, but where is the QT ref file option in AE? I can't seem to find that export option.

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    Re: Help with MC to After Effects, then back to MC

     You cannot export a QT ref out of AE - you perform that export from Avid.

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    Re: Help with MC to After Effects, then back to MC

    The ref out - Avid codec in workflow is something I do all the time, although since I'm working in HD I use the Avid DNxHD codecs to go back to Avid.

    Backing up Solopost, you can't export a QTref file from AE, since by it's nature a QTref file references existing material.  After Effects must create new material to export, so there is no point in even offering QTref as an option.  So Adobe don't.

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  • Sat, Sep 13 2008 8:19 AM In reply to

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    Re: Help with MC to After Effects, then back to MC

    So if i'm understanding correctly, when I create my effects in AE, I have to export it as a video clip using an Avid codec? I can't just reference the material?

    Then, I have to import that as a new clip into Avid?

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    Re: Help with MC to After Effects, then back to MC

     You should note that an Avid QT reference file is only good whilst the media is still on line within Avid, should you want to change you effect at a later date once you have deleted the avid media you will have a problem.  All this is very obvious but worth bearing in mind when choosing to use QT ref file. 

    I have a tendancy to use QT same a sorce to ensure I can back material up and the same project can be rebuilt easily by anyone in the future.

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  • Sun, Sep 14 2008 12:33 AM In reply to

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    Re: Help with MC to After Effects, then back to MC

    lenivan:
    So if i'm understanding correctly, when I create my effects in AE, I have to export it as a video clip using an Avid codec?

    Well, I use an Avid codec because the quality is good and I can do really quick imports back into Avid.  You don't have to use an Avid codec, but you definitely cannot use a Quicktime reference file to export from After Effects.  To do this there has to be something that can be referenced.  Until After Effects creates media from your project there isn't.

    If AE is creating media it might just as well create something that you can directly use rather than the double handling of create a file, reference it, then bring it into Avid.  And if you look at your codec options under QT within AE there is accordingly no ability to choose reference anyway.  So it's a bit of a moot point whether you should or shouldn't, you simply cannot.

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