Post Republic: Another vote for background rendering here oh and secondary colour correction in MC while we're at it...
Another vote for background rendering here
oh and secondary colour correction in MC while we're at it...
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Yes please!
Yes indeed background rendering.
Count me in...I've been asking for this for more than 2 years now.
I think my memory sucks, but I forget.
yes background thingies would be very nice. And secondary color correction also.
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Guys.....
If you want 'background export' why don't you just pay $30 and get quicktime pro or use sorensen (with QTrefs)
You export quicktime references (takes about a second unless there's effects or unless you need to do a video mixdown), and then you open up the QTref in quicktime pro/sorensen and do your encoding ('exporting'). This way you can work while your encode is happening.
Cool huh (-;
Toby
If you have any effects on your sequence they'll be rendered before the quicktime reference can export--that locks up your Avid. It would be nice to set a series of sequences to export and have the rendering happen in the background so you can keep working.
Same with importing--select a handful of files to import and Avid handles the conversion in the background so you can continue to cut, organize bins, etc...
Michael
yea, but if you've already got them rendered or if there arent many effects, then a QTref exports pretty quickly and you can free up avid be making QTpro or Sorenson do the rendering/encode in the background.
I totally agree for import, but Avid might be a little slow and unresponsive, also, the import would take longer (although it would be nice to have the option of a background import).
tobyjt:yea, but if you've already got them rendered or if there arent many effects, then a QTref exports pretty quickly and you can free up avid be making QTpro or Sorenson do the rendering/encode in the background.
Agreed, but if Avid gives us background rendering we won't waste time rendering them in the first place! It would happen in the background while we worked.
tobyjt:I totally agree for import, but Avid might be a little slow and unresponsive, also, the import would take longer (although it would be nice to have the option of a background import).
If you have a decent RAID, it shouldn't affect it too much. Playing back media and doing basic cutting isn't exactly processor intensive, and with 4 and 8 core systems now you almost always have spare processors that aren't doing anything. It would take some serious coding magic, but I'm sure it's possible. You probably wouldn't want to do any background importing/rendering while doing heavy effects work, but to simple cutting I don't imagine it would slow you down too much, if at all.
Butcher:If you have a decent RAID, it shouldn't affect it too much. Playing back media and doing basic cutting isn't exactly processor intensive, and with 4 and 8 core systems now you almost always have spare processors that aren't doing anything
Its not the disk activity that would slow the system down, it would be the encoding of the file on import, potentially maxing out CPU usage (although it never does lol).
There are 3 reasons I can think of for why Avid HAS NOT implemented these background features;
1. To keep Avid really responsive for every second of editing taking place.
2. To help editors make money while twiddling their thumbs waiting for imports, exports and renders.
3. Their media management system cant handle it (the database structure and mxf etc.).
That's really great and I do do that, but what about exporting image sequences?
I think importing and exporting are a second, however, to the need for background rendering. It will require Avid to get off their bums and rewrite the software. It should have been a feature a long time ago.
Background rendering has nothing to do with exporting.
As we experienced it on Liquid it makes rendering at the background while working eliminating the
need for having in mind rendering all the time.
When you are finished editing, you are ready to export to whatever you want to.
If they could add this I think it would be a breakthrough.
No other NLE (except Liquid) has that.
And when it works right can't be beaten.
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The ability to render in the background would be teriffic... add to that not stopping the playback if you click in a bin or open a window, let me continue to work while the timeline is playing.
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As a former Avid Liquid user, I too would love to see background rendering. It was an excellent feature of Liquid, as was instant save.
Yea until you had the benefit of background rendering you really don't know how great it is. It really should be added. Liquid has it , so it can be done. I would love instant save too. I never lost anything I have ever done in Liquid but I have lost some work in Exp Pro.
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