I am curious to know if the Symphony Nitris has been used as a grading and compositing tool on features. I have just completed a feature film and the producer has his own gear. He is a wildlife doccie guy and is having difficulty understanding the different diciplines involved. In the meantime I am frustrated by what the symphony can achieve
Hi,
I suppose it depends on your definition of "features". Big time films with big budgets wouldn't use a Symphony to do color correction, but I'm sure there are smaller productions that might.
If you tell us what you're trying to achieve, maybe we can help.
good luck,Carl
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I have graded many "direct to video" features and a few film out shorter projects on Symphony. I have also graded some very high profile features for screenings on the Symphony. Several have used the screener as the template for the DI.
Your limitations are:
4:2:2 color space, not 4:4:4
1080 not 2K
No panel control which slows things down
Most Symphony operators are not feature level graders
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to agree and add: biggest hurdle to the likelyhood of achieving a great symphony grade is the user (both technical deficiencies and taste deficiencies are common). If you work in a main market area and are capable of producing wonderful consistent grades (both subtle and heavy ) you probably wouldn't use symphony. Why is this? TCurren has covered many reasons but I would add a few: It is not a grading machine. I think this is a mistake ,and should be rectified by avid, but I am in the minority here. There is no easy way to spatially define corrections. It is all very well picking a hue that covers an area that need a subtle lightening but if you can't loosely fence it off then you'll probably end up with an unwanted correction somewhere else as well. Of course you can work around this limitaion with patience and skill but this should not be needed. the interface is poor and fiddly Beyond the 444 limitation (lets hope that changes) there is also a problem getting high quality material into the system. DPX don't come in well (hopefully this will change with the next metafuze release) nor is 10bit material ingestible apart from tiff16 or tape. regards Michael ps Don't blame the guy you are using I'm sure he is good at many other things. Grading at the highest level is a job in itself.
to agree and add:
biggest hurdle to the likelyhood of achieving a great symphony grade is the user (both technical deficiencies and taste deficiencies are common). If you work in a main market area and are capable of producing wonderful consistent grades (both subtle and heavy ) you probably wouldn't use symphony.
Why is this? TCurren has covered many reasons but I would add a few:
It is not a grading machine. I think this is a mistake ,and should be rectified by avid, but I am in the minority here.
There is no easy way to spatially define corrections. It is all very well picking a hue that covers an area that need a subtle lightening but if you can't loosely fence it off then you'll probably end up with an unwanted correction somewhere else as well. Of course you can work around this limitaion with patience and skill but this should not be needed.
the interface is poor and fiddly
Beyond the 444 limitation (lets hope that changes) there is also a problem getting high quality material into the system. DPX don't come in well (hopefully this will change with the next metafuze release) nor is 10bit material ingestible apart from tiff16 or tape.
regards Michael
ps Don't blame the guy you are using I'm sure he is good at many other things. Grading at the highest level is a job in itself.
Are you on a Mac or PC? I was thinking you could use COLOR on the mac maybe
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