If I may put another set of questions:

1. Can MC SW from the DS 10 package use the AJA board for capture? And subsequently can this MC SW be used for capture if yes how. Or capture in DS export to MC for whatever and export back to DS?
2. If you put Avid DS software-only license and MC SW on a different computer can this be connected to the same Avid VideoRaid SR storage that came with DS 10?
3.  Can I ad an Avid DX to that MCSW for capture ?
4. In that case how media captured by MC can be used in DS? OR from DS SW?
5. Can DS 10 use OpenEXR or HDRI?
6. How can monitor HD footage from DS 10 on an HDMI device (HP Dream color)? Is there an HDMI port on AJA – I didn’t see it? Or use some HD-SDI to HDMI convertor from AJA?

Thanks,

Laurentiu

slicker:

Can MC SW from the DS 10 package use the AJA board for capture? And subsequently can this MC SW be used for capture if yes how.

I'm not a DS user yet, and not 10 for sometime yet I don't think, but my understanding on that one is no. The MC software is provided as a tool to work with sequences and prep for DS finishing.

I can't answer any of your other questions...

 Nobody can answer to any?

slicker:

Can MC SW from the DS 10 package use the AJA board for capture? And subsequently can this MC SW be used for capture if yes how. Or capture in DS export to MC for whatever and export back to DS?

- No.  Installing the included MC on the same system as the DS is intended for 'prep work' only.  Decomposing bins, stuff like that.  No Capture or Output is supported.  My understanding is that it will be a fully licensed version, so if you want to run it on a different, supported system, you are free to do so.  You can, intheory, capture in DS, go to MC, then back to DS.  Although I'm not sure when you would ever need to do that.  DS only exports media, no real metadata.

slicker:

If you put Avid DS software-only license and MC SW on a different computer can this be connected to the same Avid VideoRaid SR storage that came with DS 10?

 Not at the same time.  The VideoRaid SR is local storage, not shared.  You will need a Unity or other shared system.

slicker:

 Can I ad an Avid DX to that MCSW for capture ?

-I'm sure Avid would be happy to sell that to you, but you won't be able to run it on the same CPU as DS.

slicker:

In that case how media captured by MC can be used in DS? OR from DS SW?

-DS will read whatever pretty much whatever MXF material you capture with MC, with the exception of 24fps Standard def.

slicker:

Can DS 10 use OpenEXR or HDRI?

-I don't think so, but I don't know for sure.  Anyone?

slicker:

How can monitor HD footage from DS 10 on an HDMI device (HP Dream color)? Is there an HDMI port on AJA – I didn’t see it? Or use some HD-SDI to HDMI convertor from AJA?

-No HDMI on Aja that I'm aware of.  You would need to get a converter.

What is it that you are tryng to do?  It sounds as if you have a specific workflow you need to accomodate.

 Hello Larentiu,

As Sycophant stated, the MC Software ( v3.0) that is provided with DS 10, replaces Avid MediaLog to allow the generation of AFE from bins. It will also allowa the proper logging and capture of P2 and transcoding of HDV and XDCAM HD/EX to DNxHD that can then be used in Avid DS through an AFE conform. Media Composer v3.0 is NOT officially qualified by Avid on Windows XP64, however limited testing has been performed to ensure proper behaviour of MC 3.0 for this application.

So, Media Composer v3 is included to offer the ability to transcode formats not natively handled by DS into Avid DNxHD for use within DS.    It does not utiize the AJA board.  The AJA board is integrated in DS and provides the I/O and monitoring for HD-RGB footage that is uniquely required by DS.

If you have any other specific questions, send me an email or private message that you have posted again so I can respond quickly.

HTH

Marianna

" It will also allowa the proper logging and capture of P2 and transcoding of HDV and XDCAM HD/EX to DNxHD "

So MC SW can use the fireware from the DS computer to capture media??

For GusC No, we are triyng to figure out a NEW workflow AFTER upgrade

Thanks,

Laurentiu

My guess is that it will not capture via firewire. Marianna said that it allows for capture of P2 (file-based) and transcoding of HDV/XDCAM, not capture of HDV or XDCAM.

So...

We have an MC Adrenaline and a DS 7.6 on equinox.

We will start to post 25 episodes of a 50 min show shot in HDV. Something like Extreme Makeover show, so it will be a lot of material.

We have to decide witch of them to upgrade.

I am pushing for DS but if I must load tapes on Adrenaline and then transfer media (somehow) to DS VideoRaid SR it will be to complicated and time consuming.

Another route can be to dub every HDV tape to an HDcam tape (we have i.link option to the HDW D 1800 deck but again, there are too many tapes/ not in the budget. We don't have SDI out on the HDW deck.

So this is why I keep asking questions.  I want to figure out how to ingest HDV directly to DS v10 . Sorry for the long post.

Thanks,

Laurentiu

Miranda makes a product called HD-Bridge DEC.  Link is here.

This will convert your HDV stuff to SD/HDSDI, as well as converting the firewire control to 422.  I have used it on high profile, extremely fast turn-around shows and it does everything it says it does.

The HDV was originally captured into offline via firewire on Adrenaline, then captured for online in DS via the Miranda and it works fantastically.

Have you considered buying the Sony HDV Pro deck HVR1500?  It is reasonalbly priced ($7900 US list) does real RS422 machine control, has HDSDI output.  I imagine you could pay for it in dubbing costs with your other proposed workflow.  25 shows=$320 per show.

In my experience, although thankfully limited with HDV, this is the most effecient way to go.  Use it to load you offline system (it does downconvert) and oneline.  TC accuracy is dead on.

Jef

I considered that option to but our investments were meant for Avid gear only and keep only the decks we have we have an HDV deck but not with HDSDI. HDV is the format producers want now; tomorrow maybe will persuade them to change to XDcamHD 422 so we will need another deck. This is why we want to wait with the Avid's upgraded till the market (in formats) will settle a little bit to invest in new decks.

Our problem is to figure out witch of the two should be upgraded first DS or Adrenaline.We are still debating. I think it will be the DS because the entire package is very appealing.

Thanks a lot for responses.

Laurentiu