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  • Mon, Aug 18 2008 11:26 AM

    • toboda
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    HD with Composer

     

    Dear Composers,

    I'm currently researching for building up a HD / Bluray workflow. Therefore I have a few questions according the formats Media Composer accepts and delivers.


    1. can Media Composer read and work with 1920x1080 DPX? And when: how does it work (e.g. AVISynth)?

    2. Does Media Composer need to create temp files of imported DPX?

    3. can Media Composer encode Bluray compliant h.264 or VC1? Are they accepted by Scenarist?

    If anybody already has a working HD / Bluray workflow please let me know how you are working from DPX to h.264 (Bluray).

    Many thanks in advance,


    Tobias.

  • Mon, Aug 18 2008 11:36 AM In reply to

    Re: HD with Composer

    I'm not sure why you'd want to use an editing application like Avid to encode files. Undoubtedly there are many other applications that are made for file encoding. While MC does allow encoding, it is not an encoder. You would first have to import the DPX's into MC, thereby transcoding them to an Avid resolution, then exporting them, with the somewhat limited export options that MC has.

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  • Mon, Aug 18 2008 11:48 AM In reply to

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    Re: HD with Composer

    Thanks.

    I discovered 2 major problems in a HD / Bluray workflow:

    1. handle / edit DPX natively without conversion

    2. encode to Bluray compliant h.264 or VC1

    So 1. is to evaluate generally if Media Composer could handle DPX nativly and 2. is to find out how I could get Bluray compliant h.264 or VC1 Streams out of an editing system.

    Tobias.

  • Mon, Aug 18 2008 12:20 PM In reply to

    • berga
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    Re: HD with Composer

    toboda:

    Thanks.

    I discovered 2 major problems in a HD / Bluray workflow:

    1. handle / edit DPX natively without conversion

    2. encode to Bluray compliant h.264 or VC1

    So 1. is to evaluate generally if Media Composer could handle DPX nativly and 2. is to find out how I could get Bluray compliant h.264 or VC1 Streams out of an editing system.

    Tobias.

     

     Sorry for my ingnorance. But which camera deliver DPX-files?

    With Avid full version, not studen version, Sorenson Sqezze is included and it can compress both h.264 and VC1. I do not no if Avid DVD, also included in full MC, can burn Blue ray disk which is encoded inh.264 or VC1, it can not burn, but maybe it can bypass.

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  • Mon, Aug 18 2008 12:28 PM In reply to

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    Re: HD with Composer

    No Problem...

    It's not a camera. The files are captured from HDCam SR by Clipster.

    And I don't want to simply burn a BR. I want to import the h.264 / VC1 into Scenarist, do the Authoring and send the master Image for replication.

    Tobias.

  • Mon, Aug 18 2008 12:28 PM In reply to

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    Re: HD with Composer

    VC1 has been supported since MC 2.8 check out the readme file

     

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  • Mon, Aug 18 2008 1:06 PM In reply to

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    Re: HD with Composer

    Of course, since VC1 ist WMV. The reason why I'm asking this in a PRO-Forum is that I want to verify if it's BluRay compliant. And I don't mean to simply burn a clip on BRDisc and play in PS3 but I want to know if it's a Scenarist compliant stream.

    Tobias.

  • Mon, Aug 18 2008 2:29 PM In reply to

    • cuervo
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    Re: HD with Composer

    Here's the workflow I'm currently using. I'm in the midst of the process, first time for me, so it is as yet totally untested...

    1-acquire in super 16

    2-transfer to HDCAM SR and DNX115 at tape house

    3-Import DNX115 footage for offline edit and preview screen in AVID

    4-Output EDL or use online proxy to cut HDCAM SR

    5-cc final footage with colorist prior to film print

    6-film print from HDCAM SR

    If you're interested in only a bluray final, transfer to DNX175 if you have the hard drive space, otherwise stay with DNX115. Edit/cut in DNX115 then render to a quality intermediate, uncompressed, Cineform or SHEER, something like that. Go to bluray from the intermediate in a 3rd party software. I use TMPGENC to DVD Architect and it seems to work quite well.

     

    I think the same workflow can be used with DPX. DPX conversion from super 16 is extremely expensive, due to the high demand from studios for DPX. Next time around, I'm seriously looking at a CINEFORM/Wafian workflow.

     

    Hope this helps you, somewhat.

    Best,

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