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  • Thu, Jun 19 2008 5:47 PM

    • Red Ochre
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    Legalizing question

    I've uprezed our dvcpro HD material, color corrected it and droped a safe color limiter (422 mode checked) on the top most video track w/safe color settings set at 18 - 232. In Theory this should prevent anything from going out of gamut right? But I keep getting hits sometimes low sometimes high. I'm forced to manually legalize about every 8th shot. On a two hour show this is killing me.

    This same thing happens with HDCAM material but for some reason not with HDV. Can somone shed some light on this. I thought perhaps it was because just one of the fields is out of gamut and for some reason the limiter won't see it. 

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  • Thu, Jun 19 2008 9:02 PM In reply to

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    Re: Legalizing question

     Hi.  I use all the time the "clip low / clip high" buttonts and never had problems.

    Its in the Avid CC tool - HSL Tab - Controls - low clip - 17 - high clip - 234.

    I do TV shows all the time and never had a reject of low or high picks.

    Good luck.

  • Thu, Jun 19 2008 9:20 PM In reply to

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    Re: Legalizing question

     I get the same results with CC. Some footage just wont be clipped. But why?

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  • Thu, Jun 19 2008 9:45 PM In reply to

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    Re: Legalizing question

     Did you use the clip high clip low buttons?

  • Thu, Jun 19 2008 10:07 PM In reply to

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    Re: Legalizing question

     I use a the Master Curve, and clip the levels on that. Never had a problem.

    Produce broadcast material this way without a rejection.

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  • Thu, Jun 19 2008 11:16 PM In reply to

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    Re: Legalizing question

    Red Ochre:
    I keep getting hits sometimes low sometimes high.
     

    What are you using to monitor the signal? Internal warnings? Externtal box (which one)?

    - Rob

     

  • Thu, Jun 19 2008 11:56 PM In reply to

    • Red Ochre
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    Re: Legalizing question

     Hi Rob,

    I'm using a hamlet monitoring hd-sdi out.

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  • Sat, Jun 21 2008 2:27 AM In reply to

    • Red Ochre
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    Re: Legalizing question

    Hi Rob. Are you out there? Somewhere?

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  • Sat, Jun 21 2008 2:44 AM In reply to

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    Re: Legalizing question

     Is anybody here using a real waveform monitor/vectorscope? Those are the two primary tools the QC houses use to accept or reject your product.

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  • Sat, Jun 21 2008 5:23 AM In reply to

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    Re: Legalizing question

    Which model of Hamlet scope are you using?

    When you get hits on HDCAM material, what type of warnings are they? Composite? RGB Gamut? Luminance?

     

    - Rob

     

  • Sun, Jun 22 2008 6:49 PM In reply to

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    Re: Legalizing question

    robg:

    Which model of Hamlet scope are you using?

    When you get hits on HDCAM material, what type of warnings are they? Composite? RGB Gamut? Luminance?

     

    - Rob

     

     Hamlet LCD Scope 292WVA

    The hits are RGB Gamut

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  • Mon, Jun 23 2008 10:13 AM In reply to

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    Re: Legalizing question

     We use Tektronix 601 scopes and Rasterisers. Nothing else is up to the job IMHO.

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  • Mon, Jun 23 2008 1:06 PM In reply to

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    Re: Legalizing question

    AdamGiles:
     We use Tektronix 601 scopes and Rasterisers. Nothing else is up to the job IMHO.
     

     

    100% agreed.

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  • Mon, Jun 23 2008 5:01 PM In reply to

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    Re: Legalizing question

    So are you guys saying that its probably the scope thats causing the problem?

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  • Mon, Jun 23 2008 5:09 PM In reply to

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    Re: Legalizing question

     Not necessarily. I'm saying that the virtual software driven waveform tools are not up to task of critical measuring of fine details of the various signal parameters, right down to the nanosecond. The Tektronix products when properly calibrated, will tell you the rock solid truth about your signal.

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