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  • Thu, Jun 12 2008 2:37 PM

    • caboloan
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    settings for a cine or film look in Avid Xpress Pro

    Hi. I've been using Avid Xpress pro for a few months already and everything runs smoothly. I am interested in creating a 24 p or film / cine look for the videos I edit. These videos were shot with Sony camera and mobile phone camera running at 30 fps. What settings needs to be adjusted in the Avid to trick it into presenting these ordinary footages as 24 p?

     

    Christopher Gozum

  • Thu, Jun 12 2008 2:45 PM In reply to

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    Re: settings for a cine or film look in Avid Xpress Pro

    Hi Christopher,

    Within Xpress Pro you're pretty limited.  You could add a motion effect with the render set to duplicate frames to emulate the frame rate, and you could use the color correction tools to try and change the look of the colors, but you're not going to be able to make video look exactly like film.

    There are plug-in effects that will do a better job.  You should look into Boris Continuum Complete, which has some film effects included in a package of a lot of effects (and you get it for free if you upgrade to Media Composer). 

    I'm sure other people will chime in with other techniques and plug-ins.

    good luck,
    Carl

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  • Fri, Jun 13 2008 5:44 AM In reply to

    Re: settings for a cine or film look in Avid Xpress Pro

    Carl,

    Have you had a chance to compare BCC with Boris' Red, FX and Graffiti?

    From what I can tell Continum Complete is essentially an add-in. While Red, FX and Graffiti are applications which closely work with Avid.

    It does seem that the combination of Red, FX and Graffiti is more powerful than CC--but I don't know how useful the additional features really are.

    http://www.borisfx.com/product/matrix.php

    Thanks for any insights!

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  • Fri, Jun 13 2008 6:30 AM In reply to

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    Re: settings for a cine or film look in Avid Xpress Pro

    here are some tricks that doesn't rely on any 3d party plugin,

    (if you discover others and you will, please share your experience here so others take advantage)

     

    1- duplicate V1 contents to V2.

    2- apply masks to the interesting shots in V2 and CC (color correct) them as needed.

    (this is to enhance your foreground)

    3- CC shots in V1 at your taste, maybe darker them, add some blur if you wish.

    (this is to enhance your BG)

    4- open a new V3 and drag the grain effect on it, adjust its settings to your taste.

    5- optionally, you can add a vignette (a black circle feathered) over a new V4.

    6- optionally, you can add a gradient blue (using the title tool) to enhance the sky shots.

    7- optionally, you can add "strob" on the shots to fake the frame rate.

    or add "strob" on the final mixed down file.

    8- you can do some trash effect by exporting to QuickTime a Ref. file and use QT effects.

     

    if you want to spend $399, Magic Bullet Looks got some kool settings, check their demo before.

    i hope that'll help,

    have fun.

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  • Fri, Jun 13 2008 8:15 AM In reply to

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    Re: settings for a cine or film look in Avid Xpress Pro

    Hi, 

    BobbyMurcerFan:
    Have you had a chance to compare BCC with Boris' Red, FX and Graffiti?

    I haven't, as I really only have experience with BCC.  I used Boris FX (or a precursor to it) about 12 years ago, but I haven't run a system with it since.  I remember thinking it was cool, but I was way too new to make any useful judgement.

    BobbyMurcerFan:
    From what I can tell Continum Complete is essentially an add-in. While Red, FX and Graffiti are applications which closely work with Avid.
     

    BCC effects work just like any other Avid effect.  They appear in the Effect Palette, you drop them onto clips in the timeline, and you adjust them in the Effect Editor window.

    The others (unless they've changed) are similar in that they appear in the Effect Palette, and you drop them onto clips in the timeline, but after opening them in the Effect Editor window, you click on the little grey box at the top of the window to open the effect up in its own interface to work with it (similar to how you open up Marquee).

    Based on that comparison matrix, Red is the most powerful, but BCC is pretty close.

    good luck,
    Carl

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