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Sun, Jun 8 2008 3:50 PM

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I haven't moved up to MC 3 yet. What are the improvements to Segment Mode?

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Sun, Jun 8 2008 5:43 PM In reply to

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AK-Jake:
I haven't moved up to MC 3 yet.

Nor have the rest of us. Its due tomorrow (even though its Monday here) Geeked

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Sun, Jun 8 2008 6:33 PM In reply to

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There was a demo there they showed drag and drop.

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This is the link to the movie demo.

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Sun, Jun 8 2008 6:49 PM In reply to

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This is the link to the demo.

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Mon, Jun 9 2008 11:40 AM In reply to

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Thanks, Berga. I'll watch the demo today.

I forgot that MC 3 hasn't shipped yet. Some of us have had it for a while, but I haven't had the chance to run it yet.

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Mon, Jun 9 2008 2:18 PM In reply to

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it's monday where's' the download???

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Tom...it's monday at 9:30. Avid hasn't even had it's collective coffee yet. Keep yer shirt on... Wink

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Mon, Jun 9 2008 2:43 PM In reply to

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One bit in the readme that I found confusing and/or disturbing:

The following upgrade process to the Vista version of the editing application is not supported:

For example, if a Media Composer v2.7.x customer uninstalled the editing application, upgraded the OS from WinXP to Vista, and then tried to install Media Composer 3.0, the installation would fail. The only allowable Vista editing application installation is on a clean Vista system.

So how do I upgrade my existing XP 2.8.3 to Vista 3.0?

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Mon, Jun 9 2008 3:01 PM In reply to

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ronn:
So how do I upgrade my existing XP 2.8.3 to Vista 3.0?

Every Avid 'ugrade' has always been a standalone installer, meaning you never really needed a previous installation for it to work.

Also, it is always highly recommended to clean install a new OS. WXP to Vista is not a service pack upgrade. They use two different set of drivers, settings and etc. It would be much too risky to try to do a patching installation when changing platforms.

In short, clean install Vista and Avid.

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Mon, Jun 9 2008 3:28 PM In reply to

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Thanks Dom. I guess I missed the "clean install of Vista" part. Which I assume means you can't use an upgrade version, only a full version of Vista. Of course that means more money. Unless you follow the instructions below that I found on windowssecrets.com:

The difference between Vista's full and upgrade prices can be substantial. Based on the asking prices shown at Shopping.com on Jan. 31 — the day after the consumer version of Vista became available — the four most popular Vista versions will set you back approximately as follows:

Edition	Full version	Upgrade version
Vista Home Basic	$192	$100 ($92 less)
Vista Home Premium	$228	$156 ($72 less)
Vista Business	$285	$192 ($93 less)
Vista Ultimate	$380	$225 ($155 less)

The upgrade versions of Vista have street prices that are 32% to 48% cheaper than the full versions. If you're truly installing Vista over an old instance of XP or W2K, the upgrade version of Vista will find the older OS on your hard drive and install without question. The problem is that Vista, unlike every version of Windows in the past, doesn't let you insert a physical disc from an older operating system as evidence of your previous purchase.

Vista has an undocumented feature, however, that actually allows you to "clean install" Vista to a hard disk that has no prior copy of XP or W2K.

Use Vista's 'upgrade' version to clean-install

The secret is that the setup program in Vista's upgrade version will accept an installed copy of XP, W2K, or an unactivated copy of Vista itself as evidence of a previous installation.

This enables you to "clean install" an upgrade version of Vista to any formatted or unformatted hard drive, which is usually the preferred method when installing any new operating system. You must, in essence, install Vista twice to take advantage of this trick. But Vista installs much faster than XP, so it's quicker than installing XP followed by Vista to get the upgrade price.

Before you install Vista on a machine that you don't know is 100% compatible, you should run Microsoft's free Upgrade Advisor. This program — which operates only on 32-bit versions of XP and Vista (plus Vista Enterprise) — reports to you on any hardware or software it finds that may be incompatible with Vista. See Microsoft's Upgrade Advisor page.

Also, to see which flavors of XP Home, XP Pro, and 2000 officially support in-place installs and clean installs of the different Vista editions, see Microsoft's upgrade paths page.

Here's a simplified overview of the steps that are required to clean-install the upgrade version of Vista:

Step 1. Boot the PC from the Vista DVD.

Step 2. Select "Install Now," but do not enter the Product Key from the Vista packaging. Leave the input box blank. Also, turn off the option Automatically activate Windows when I'm online. In the next dialog box that appears, confirm that you really do want to install Vista without entering a Product Key.

Step 3. Correctly indicate the version of Vista that you're installing: Home Basic, Home Premium, Business, or Ultimate.

Step 4. Select the "Custom (Advanced)" install, not the "Upgrade" install.

Step 5. Vista copies files at length and reboots itself one or more times. Wait for the install to complete. At this point, you might think that you could "activate" Vista, but you can't. That's because you haven't installed the Vista upgrade yet. To do that, run the DVD's setup.exe program again, but this time from the Vista desktop. The easiest way to start setup again is to eject and then reinsert the DVD.

Step 6. Click "Install Now." Select Do not get the latest updates for installation. (You can check for these updates later.)

Step 7. This time, do enter the Product Key from the Vista packaging. Once again, turn off the option Automatically activate Windows when I'm online.

Step 8. On this second install, make sure to select "Upgrade," not "Custom (Advanced)." You're not doing a clean install now, you're upgrading to Vista.

Step 9. Wait while Vista copies files and reboots itself. No user interaction is required. Do not boot from the DVD when asked if you'd like to do so. Instead, wait a few seconds and the setup process will continue on its way. Some DOS-like, character-mode menus will appear, but don't interact with them. After a few seconds, the correct choice will run for you automatically.

Step 10. After you click a button labeled Start in the Thank You dialog box, Vista's login screen will eventually appear. Enter the username and password that you selected during the first install. You're done upgrading to Vista.

Step 11. Within 30 days, you must "activate" your copy of Vista or it'll lose functionality. To activate Vista, click Show more details in the Welcome Center that automatically displays upon each boot-up, then click Activate Windows now. If you've dismissed the Welcome Center, access the correct dialog box by clicking Start, Control Panel, System & Maintenance, System. If you purchased a legitimate copy of Vista, it should quickly activate over the Internet. (You can instead activate by calling Microsoft on the phone, which avoids your PC exchanging information with Microsoft's server.)

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You don't have to install Vista to run 3.0 do you?? Are there any benefits of running this on Vista? Is 3.0 64 bit? Vista is so much slower than XP, esp. trying to find other computers on a network.

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Fazz Powell:

You don't have to install Vista to run 3.0 do you?? Are there any benefits of running this on Vista? Is 3.0 64 bit? Vista is so much slower than XP, esp. trying to find other computers on a network.

Nope. Runs on XP too. Does not use 64 bit in Vista. Advantage is that MS will not be supporting XP in near future.

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Mon, Jun 9 2008 3:36 PM In reply to

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Actually 3.0 is MUCH faster on XP than Vista. No, the app is still 32bit but it runs under Vista 64.

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