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  • Mon, May 26 2008 4:07 PM

    • Luxgap
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    Liquid pro project into MC

     I just received a drive which contains all material for a documentary that was edited in liquid pro.  There are several revisions that need to be done but MC does not recognize anything on this drive. Has anyone ever had a similar situation? What workflow was used if this is possible?   I also tried to import this mpg. footage into Premiere CS without success.  Any insight would be appreciated.

    P.S. 

    I was able to play this footage  with a DIVX player

  • Mon, May 26 2008 4:11 PM In reply to

    • sverkalo
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    Re: Liquid pro project into MC

    Now we are playing at my field. Geeked

    Are those .m2v files?

     

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  • Mon, May 26 2008 4:30 PM In reply to

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    Re: Liquid pro project into MC

    OK now.


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  • Wed, May 28 2008 2:51 AM In reply to

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    Re: Liquid pro project into MC

    Sverkalo!

     Sorry it took a while to anwer but the files are indeed .m2v as well as Wave files.  Sounds like you might be able to help me, at least I hope so.  Any clues would be Efaristo Poli!

     

    Vincent

  • Wed, May 28 2008 4:24 AM In reply to

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    Re: Liquid pro project into MC

    I just tried to import some m2v's into Composer and got the same result. I suspect that it doesn't know how to handle elementary streams. I don't have time tonight, but I suspect it would work if muxed with the audio into a program stream

     

    Dave S.

  • Wed, May 28 2008 5:14 AM In reply to

    Re: Liquid pro project into MC

    MC doesn't generally like any form of MPEG as a Source.

     

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  • Wed, May 28 2008 5:54 AM In reply to

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    Re: Liquid pro project into MC

     

    Thanks Kenton,

    Is there a way of converting said (m2v) files using sorenson to omf?

  • Wed, May 28 2008 5:54 AM In reply to

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    Re: Liquid pro project into MC

     I meant converting m2v into MXF.

  • Wed, May 28 2008 6:28 AM In reply to

    Re: Liquid pro project into MC

    You'll probably have better luck if you convert those to QT (Animation or other lossless codec) and then import into MC.  MPEG Streamclip is a free app that I like to use for converting m2v files to QT.

     

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  • Wed, May 28 2008 11:40 PM In reply to

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    Re: Liquid pro project into MC

    But I though that freeware use is forbidden as for MC users.Stick out tongue

    I think Kenton said it well.

    He could post a link to the Pandora's Box as well.

    P.S. Try to rename an .m2v to .avi even if it's sounds crazy. Don't tell you heard it from me. Really noone knows about that.

     

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  • Thu, May 29 2008 12:27 AM In reply to

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    Re: Liquid pro project into MC

     Hello Dave and Sverkalo, yet again Smile

    I am surprised that you did not watch my tutorial about the problems met while trying to import M2V files into MC.... as well as a solution to the problem!

    No need to rediscover the wheel....

    http://www.gaijin-eyes.com/tutorials/xyz/migrate00.htm

    is the link to the tutorials and Button 3 is where you will be able to follow the procedure...

    Any MC users looking at the tutorials willprobably be shocked at the simple things I am touching on. The series is specifically designed to be of help to Liquid users with no previous experience in MC.

    The tutorials are the same as the ones currently in the Tips & Tutorials section, but with a slightly higher screen resolution so Liquid users can recognise the new on screen icons etc.

    Regards,

    Douglas

     

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  • Thu, May 29 2008 12:57 AM In reply to

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    Re: Liquid pro project into MC

    I did sensei.

     

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  • Thu, May 29 2008 1:29 AM In reply to

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    Re: Liquid pro project into MC

    Liquid can export using the DNxHD codec if the Avid codecs are installed on the Liquid system.  If you can have that material exported from Liquid that way, MC will be able to import it.  I'm working toward finding a way to have Liquid export an MXF file of the proper kind so the file can just be copied to the media folder in MC but I haven't solved that one yet.

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  • Thu, May 29 2008 1:42 AM In reply to

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    Re: Liquid pro project into MC

     Scott,

    I got the impression that people were concerend about the time MC was taking to import their files.
    If you export from Liquid using the DNxHD codec..... you will hardly be saving any time.
    Also I recall that if one used the DNxHD codecs in Liquid it tended to do 1 encoding, then if you tried a new file it would crash!

    MC has a tried and tested (albeit slow for many) function for importing files.
    I personally would rather let MC do that part, than have it done in another piece of software.
    But each to his own....... that's the spice of life Big Smile

    Regards,

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  • Thu, May 29 2008 2:52 AM In reply to

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    Re: Liquid pro project into MC

    Douglas,

    The option of using DNxHD was for the original poster to have an option for getting the HDV material from Liquid into MC.  It wasn't to save time.  His current M2V files won't import at all so anything would be a time saver for him.  Smile

    Even if you have to restart Liquid to export the second DNxHD file, that's a small price to pay for what you're getting.  Uncompressed might export faster in Liquid but will take up enormous amounts of disk space and will take longer to send over a network, for example.  There will be a loss of time somewhere and a gain in time somewhere no matter what.  Which combination is the fastest with the highest quality is still undetermined.  I'm working on that but don't have an answer yet.

    I will be using Liquid to capture analog and will send that material to MC in whatever comes out as the best method.  For HDV, I'll capture with MC into native MXF.

    Using MXF for analog will save time going into MC but I have not been successful getting everything right.  I think initially I was trying to import MXF instead of copying the file(s) into the media folder.  My first tests were slightly before I understood the media management very well.

     

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