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  • Wed, May 21 2008 3:41 PM

    • CineRover
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    "Unsaturated" image quality capturing 24p from DVX100A.

    Hi helpers,

    Here are my specs

    Shot on: DVX100A in 24p mode

    Editing on: Avid 5.7.2, Dual 2Ghz G5

    Capturing from: DVX100A via firewire

     

    My story:  Capturing at DV25 411 gives me a "washed out" image, lacking needed saturation and contrast. This is noticed both on the computer and my monitor.  This occurs in both a 24PNTSC or a 30iNTSC project. I'm capturing via firewire through a mojo, but get basically the same results coming in component or s-video (with a modest improvement). Also happens with higher res settings.

    I searched for this issue on the boards but couldn't find an answer. Anyone know what's up? Thanks in advance for your help.

    Dan

     

  • Wed, May 21 2008 6:18 PM In reply to

    • BLKDOG
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    Re: "Unsaturated" image quality capturing 24p from DVX100A.

    This isn't really an Avid thing. I think it may be a DV thing. 

    Unless you are saying that the footage looks better captured at another res, I am going to guess there wasn't enough light on what you shot in DV. DV requires a butt-load of light to look good at any normal aperture settings. 

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  • Wed, May 21 2008 6:44 PM In reply to

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    Re: "Unsaturated" image quality capturing 24p from DVX100A.

    Thanks for the reply BLKDOG,

    The problem doesn't appear to be low-light as I'm getting this throughout a wide variety of shots (interior interviews and exterior broll) with various lighting conditions (butt-load and non butt-load amounts)

    Though I know it's not the best guage, the onboard monitor of the camera shows a much richer image.

     

    Importing into FCP seems to make the problem go away.  I noticed the DVX100A wasn't on Avids list of compatable decks.  Could this be the problem

  • Wed, May 21 2008 7:03 PM In reply to

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    Re: "Unsaturated" image quality capturing 24p from DVX100A.

    Ok. If you import to Final Cut and get a different picture, than something else is going on.

    I just captured 4 hours of DV over SDI and the picture is pretty true to the original. Have you tired capturing in the Avid in a different  res?

    Symphony Nitris DX Mac Pro Dual 3.0 4 gigs of Ram [view my complete system specs]

    Do you really want to know what's wrong...or do you just want me to fix it?

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  • Wed, May 21 2008 8:12 PM In reply to

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    Re: "Unsaturated" image quality capturing 24p from DVX100A.

    Looking at the other options, it seems as though importing via S-Video or composite, the problem goes away. Changing the resolution (tried 1:1 MXF) doesn't have an effect.  It only happens via FW

    I guess I'll do a test shooting some footage at 30i and see if something's up with the 24p communication between camera and avid.

     

    thanks,

    d

     

  • Thu, May 29 2008 3:51 PM In reply to

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    Re: "Unsaturated" image quality capturing 24p from DVX100A.

    Hi,

    Just updating my issue. After a bunch of tests, I'm more inclined to think that it was a shooting issue rather than an avid thing. Yes, FCP seemed to handle the footage a bit better, but from what i can tell, I had some poor settings on my 24p "scene file" on the DVX100A.  Took out too much chroma perhaps?  In any case, thanks for the help BLKDOG.

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