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  • Tue, May 13 2008 4:52 PM

    • J Reef
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    Project associaition

    Hi all

    Does anyone know of a way of modifying the project associated with created media?  I have some music master clips which I want to batch import (they're offline at the moment) but when they are imported I'd like them to be associated with the new project I'm using and not the old one.  There's nothing in the modify option.  Anyone got any ideas??


    Many thanks


    Joe

     

  • Tue, May 13 2008 5:04 PM In reply to

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    Re: Project associaition

    Wouldn't you just copy the offline clips into a new bin of a new project and then unlink them?

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  • Tue, May 13 2008 5:35 PM In reply to

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    Re: Project associaition

    yes you would!  Thanks v much for that.

     

  • Tue, May 13 2008 6:11 PM In reply to

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    Re: Project associaition

     When you do that, create a bin view that includes project and double check that it does in fact associate the offline clip with the new project when batch importing.

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  • Wed, May 14 2008 12:48 PM In reply to

    Re: Project associaition

    Project association is based on tape name.

    Open the project that you want these files associated with.  Open the bin with the files and highlight them all.  Go to Clip > Modify and select Set Source.  Create a new source from your tape table (you can use the CD names they files came from if you have them, or just create a generic onle like CD).  The project association will then be changed.

     

     

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  • Wed, May 14 2008 7:54 PM In reply to

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    Re: Project associaition

    Hypothetical:

    You have 100 clips from 100 different tapes and you want to copy those offline clips into a new project.  You're saying I have to go through the Modify>Set Source routine 100 times to get the new project associations established?  There has to be a better way for this.

     

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  • Wed, May 14 2008 8:18 PM In reply to

    Re: Project associaition

    Nope, that is the way the Avid handles project association.

    You can modify multiple clips at the same time, but they would have to have the same source tape.

    Perhaps a better question is why you are asking it this way.  What is it you are trying to accomplish by changing the project name of 100 clips (hypothetically, of course)?   Perhaps your workflow needs to be examined more closely.

     

     

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  • Wed, May 14 2008 8:26 PM In reply to

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    Re: Project associaition

     Let me suggest a different workflow. Put all 100 clips in a single bin in the original project. Open the new project. Use the open bins command to navigate to and open the "100 clips" bin from the original project. Consolidate those clips, choosing the default option "master clips remained linked to original media". Create a bin view that shows project association. Move all the ".new" files that are now associated with the new project into a new bin in the new project. You're done and you still have the original clips and associated media in the original project, which you can keep or delete as you desire.

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  • Wed, May 14 2008 8:30 PM In reply to

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    Re: Project associaition

    Seems that project association is depending on the project in which the file was born. Imported graphics, imported clips, rendered files, or mixdowns do not have any tape name. However they "belong" to the project in which they were created.

    http://community.avid.com/forums/p/53689/300544.aspx#300544

    Look at Dom's post. 

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  • Wed, May 14 2008 8:33 PM In reply to

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    Re: Project associaition

    Larry Rubin:

     Let me suggest a different workflow. Put all 100 clips in a single bin in the original project. Open the new project. Use the open bins command to navigate to and open the "100 clips" bin from the original project. Consolidate those clips, choosing the default option "master clips remained linked to original media". Create a bin view that shows project association. Move all the ".new" files that are now associated with the new project into a new bin in the new project. You're done and you still have the original clips and associated media in the original project, which you can keep or delete as you desire.

     

    Yes, Larry, that's what I do when I want files to belong to another project.

     

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  • Wed, May 14 2008 8:34 PM In reply to

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    Re: Project associaition

    Well, I'm just trying to get my head around the idea that you cannot simply highlight clips in a bin and change the project association independent of the tape name.  I can understand why you would want to prevent this to avoid confusion, but if you've copied your clips and/or media to another project, then what the heck?

    I also fully understand you can modify multiple clips at once, but if you still have 100 unique tape sources then that's 100 times you have to do this, correct?

    I guess I'm spoiled with our Unity setup.  Each project has its own storage workspace and we don't worry about getting items confused between projects.  You copy whatever you want from wherever you want into your workspace and then delete it when you're done.

     

     

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  • Wed, May 14 2008 8:37 PM In reply to

    Re: Project associaition

    You're right sep, I should have mentioned that as well. 

    Any media captured or imported in a particular project will be associated with that project.  That should be assumed.

    But once you have media, the only way to change the association is to 1) change the source to a source associated with that new project or 2) (as Larry suggested) consolidate media in the new project.

    But both of these have to happen IN THE NEW PROJECT.  You can't have project A open with media associated with project A and change them to be associated with project B.  You must open project B to do that.

     

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  • Wed, May 14 2008 8:38 PM In reply to

    Re: Project associaition

    editz:
    I guess I'm spoiled with our Unity setup.  Each project has its own storage workspace and we don't worry about getting items confused between projects.

    Another nice thing about Unity (as long as your editors put their media in the right spot!)

     

     

     

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  • Wed, May 14 2008 9:02 PM In reply to

    • Larry Rubin
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    Re: Project associaition

     It is correct that there is no easy and direct way to change project linkage of master clips. I have requested this feature many times, but I suspect it's so deep in the Avid code as to make such a feature impossible to implement.

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