According to the information I've been able to find on the Avid forums and support areas, Quicktime 7.4 does not work with Avid.  As far as I can tell, however, the information I read pertained to QT 7.4.1 and earlier, and I also read that Apple was working on a fix for compatibility issues with Avid.  Now that QT 7.4.5 is out, I was wondering if this QT release fixed the issues with Avid.

Thanks,

Larry

On the Mac side, the issues were fixed with 7.4.1. However, on the PC, I would not upgrade past 7.3.1 until Avid qualifies it.

BLKDOG:

On the Mac side, the issues were fixed with 7.4.1. However, on the PC, I would not upgrade past 7.3.1 until Avid qualifies it.

The problem is that even if the issues are all completely fixed in a QT update, it could still take months before Avid's official qualifications reflect this fact.  In the mean time, other companies end up updating their software to work with the latest version of QT, and in many cases the new versions actually require the latest QT version.  This results in a situation where you have to hold off updating OTHER software in order to remain at an earlier QT version.

Given the report that Apple was working on a fix for this (Apple, not Avid), I thought that perhaps the 7.4.5 version took care of the issues that effected Avid.

Has anyone actually confirmed that QT 7.4.5 (or even 7.4.1 for that matter) does not work with Avid 2.8.3?  I can't test this myself since current projects are preventing me from updating at the moment, so I'm interested in other people's findings on this.  There have been many occasions in the past where new versions of QT actually DID work with Avid even though the qualifications didn't indicate this, so I thought that perhaps this might already be a non-issue.

Thanks again,

Larry

lalittle:

Given the report that Apple was working on a fix for this (Apple, not Avid), I thought that perhaps the 7.4.5 version took care of the issues that effected Avid.

I would hope that "Apple, not Avid" would work on the fix since they broke it with 7.4 in the first place.  In the process they also broke several other apps on Mac, including FCP.

I had trouble on an FCP project with 7.4 and export to Flash.  The local Apple supplier advised me to roll back to 7.3.1 and pointed me at a non-Apple site telling me how to do it.  The problem went away, as did the mysterious crashes that I'd also been getting.

It was apparently due to DRM issues I believe, but don't quote me.  So I can understand Avid's caution about QT approval.

jwrl:

I would hope that "Apple, not Avid" would work on the fix since they broke it with 7.4 in the first place.

I agree -- which is why I was wondering if QT 7.4.5 contained the fix.

It was apparently due to DRM issues I believe, but don't quote me.  So I can understand Avid's caution about QT approval.

I know there were some DRM issues with QT, but I was never clear if this was related to the Avid issues or not.

I agree that caution is necessary, but at the same time, Avid definitely has a reputation for taking an unusually long time to update their qualifications.  Past experience has shown that by the time the Avid qualifications are updated for software or drivers, Avid has often long since been fully compatible with the newer versions.  I think this is largely due to the fact that once a version of Avid is out, they typically don't update any of the qualifications until a new version is released.  The upshot of this is that even though a new release of Quicktime might be fully compatible with Avid, the Avid qualification will not reflect this for quite some time.

From what I've read, the problems with the earlier versions of QT 7.4 and Avid were fairly obvious.  I was hoping that if QT 7.4.5 fixed these issues, it would be equally obvious.  Have any of the more adventurous users here tried it yet?  As I mentioned, I can't try it myself since I'm mid-project, which means that I won't be doing ANY updates for a while.  In the mean time, however, I still like to follow this sort of thing.

Thanks again,

Larry

Hi,

So I am little confused...I just won a MC (software) package and I would like to install it on my 2.16 GHZ Core 2 Duo 24" imac, running 10.4.11. I think I understand that I would need to ugrade up to MC 2.8 to be able to run OS 10.4.11 but I was also under he imression that I was going to have to "downgrade" my QT to 7.3, as 7.4 is not officially qualified by Avid..Is that not the case? Can I go ahead and install under this current configuration (Mac OS 10.4.11 & QT 7.4.1)?

Thanks so much for any help you can provide.

Winslow

Yes, 7.4.1 is fine with 10.4.11 and 2.8.

BLKDOG:

Yes, 7.4.1 is fine with 10.4.11 and 2.8.

Have we had any confirmation one way or another on whether or not the PC version of Avid works with QT 7.4.5?  So far, I haven't read any reports on this at all -- i.e. I haven't seen any reports that it doesn't work OR that it does work.  I know that in the past, it takes a little while for things to be "official," and with QT 7.4.5 being needed for some OTHER programs, I'm curious to know whether or not the newer version of QT now works with Avid or not.

Has anyone actually tried this?  I'm a little unclear what the problems might be.  If I can get a chance to test this myself, can anybody tell me what to look for?

Thanks,

Larry

I have not heard of anyone testing it, so you can do so but expect the unexpected.

The nice thing about the PC side is that you an always uninstall QT 7.4.5 and reinstall QT 7.3.1 if you save  the installers.  On the Mac, QT is integrated into the operating system, so sometimes the only way to back-rev is to reinstall the OS from scratch.

So, save your installers and give it a whirl if you want.  But be sure to report back so the rest of us know.

And, FWIW, QT 7.4.5 will be qualified for MC 3.0 when it is released.

Well, that's not true. You can uninstall QT using a variety of methods and software.

Kevin Klimek:

I have not heard of anyone testing it, so you can do so but expect the unexpected.

Do you happen to know what the problem was with earlier versions of QT 7.4 and Avid?  Was it a matter of Avid not working at ALL (i.e. not even starting), or were there specific features that had problems?  I'm unclear what to look for.

And, FWIW, QT 7.4.5 will be qualified for MC 3.0 when it is released.

 

I had heard that the problems were on the QT side of things, so if 7.4.5 will be officially qualified with 3.0, does this possibly imply that 7.4.5 DID fix whatever issues Avid had with earlier versions of QT?

Thanks,

Larry

From what I have heard, QT 7.4 was a dog all over the place.  7.4.1 finally fixed some issues.

But you must understand that Quicktime is an essential component to the Avid software.  They test and code for certain versions of QT.  If you try and advane to an untested version, you may have an inoperable system.

So stick with what's approved, and you'll be safe.  And right now, that is 7.3.1.  When 3.0 comes out, you will be able to upgrade to 7.4.5.