Hi,

sverkalo:

How come Liquid has it and MC doesn't?

You'd have to ask Avid that question.

sverkalo:

But I thought that the software was the same.isn't? I mean MC with Nitris.

Not exactly.  Media Composer and Symphony are almost the same, but Symphony adds some capabilities like secondary color correction.

good luck,
Carl

Thanks Carl.

I meant that if you know MC you can work in Nitris or something?

Good Luck.

sverkalo:

I meant that if you know MC you can work in Nitris or something?

Hi George,

Yes, if you know how to edit using anything in the Xpress DV > Xpress Pro > Media Composer > Symphony line, then you know how to edit with any of them, as the user interface is the same.  They differ in the capabilities they offer (i.e. Symphony has secondary color correction and universal HD mastering).

p.s. If that Greek isn't right for "good luck" blame Babel Fish.

I wish I was living in London Carl.

I really love rain than the sun we have in tones here.

Especially in summer.

Yes, that's strange that MC doesn't have Secondary Color Correction.

I know that they want to sell Symphony for a premium price. But Avid, please put Secondary Color Correction in MC. Cheaper softwares have it.

Except from isolating a color which can be done with other ways, why do you think this is important?

Sylvain P:

I know that they want to sell Symphony for a premium price. But Avid, please put Secondary Color Correction in MC.

While I would like to see this happen for selfish reasons, I fully understand that Symphony is going to offer capabilities that MC does not have - if it didn't, what could possibly justify the price point differential? Now look, I'm not trying to oversimplify the comparison by using the automobile market as an example, but it's like insisting on Mercedes Benz level luxury options on a much lesser car platform. You get what you pay for and you don't get what you don't pay for.  There's a reason why different product lines from the same manufacturer have different price ranges - and it goes far beyond the NLE market. The reason is capability.

Larry Rubin:

Sylvain P:

I know that they want to sell Symphony for a premium price. But Avid, please put Secondary Color Correction in MC.

 

While I would like to see this happen for selfish reasons, I fully understand that Symphony is going to offer capabilities that MC does not have - if it didn't, what could possibly justify the price point differential? Now look, I'm not trying to oversimplify the comparison by using the automobile market as an example, but it's like insisting on Mercedes Benz level luxury options on a much lesser car platform. You get what you pay for and you don't get what you don't pay for.  There's a reason why different product lines from the same manufacturer have different price ranges - and it goes far beyond the NLE market. The reason is capability.

I understand that Symphony will offer realt-time online mastering and finishing. But why you need to buy Symphony for a feature that you find in about every mid-level NLE on the market. Secondary Color Correction is a nice feature to have built-in the software. And I don't understand why a 500$ NLE has it when MC doesn't. And you have to buy Symphony to get it.

All the other features of Symphony are really fine for the price difference. These other options justify the premium price. But I think it's time to implement Secondary Color Correction in MC.

If nobody ask, this is normal that Avid will not implement it. But if we all ask, they should listen. I am not asking a great function that cost so much! Just more tools for accurate color correction.

Secondary Color Correction is important when you need it. You can correct a skin tone without affecting the rest of the picture, change specific colors, doing the black and white effect with a single color, etc. It is a powerful effect. And in Liquid, etc, all have it.

I jsimply ask for it.

Or, is the BCC Secondary Color Correction can do a similar job? Can someone tries it and reports the results?

"All the other features of Symphony are really fine for the price difference."

All?  There's 2 ... Secondary CC & Universal Mastering ... for an additional $21k

http://www.avid.com/products/professionalfilm_matrix.asp

 There is much more than just secondary cc in the cc differences between mc and sn -- the primary cc in sn is much more powerful than the cc in mc.

 HI

any update on the release date ? of ver 3

"There is much more than just secondary CC in the CC differences between MC and SN -- the primary CC in sn is much more powerful than the CC in MC."

Ah, my mistake ... that "totally" justifies a $21k difference.

erik1185:

"any update on the release date ? of ver 3"

No date has been announced yet.  And there likely won't be one in advance.

When the actual software package is downloaded by testers and everything goes smoothly, it will be made available to the public.  They won't announce a date in advance, just in case there are installer issues and the like that have to be fixed.

When you hear an announcement, it will already be available online.

Randall L Rike:

Ah, my mistake ... that "totally" justifies a $21k difference.

Don't forget, that also includes a PC or Mac system, unlike the other prices.  I'm not saying that is worth $21k either, but you have to keep that in mind as well.